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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5455756" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'll admit the only Palladium I've played is TMNT and a brief stint of Rifts, ages ago.&nbsp; TMNT didn't have classes, so, I'm not entirely sure about Palladium.The fact that you have to rebuild Hero to emulate D&amp;D doesn't really negate my point.&nbsp; If you've rebuilt Hero to the point where it's simulating D&amp;D, is it really all that different of a game?&nbsp; Of course, the base Hero system doesn't presume that.&nbsp; So, basically, you're playing D&amp;D using a different system.&nbsp; At that point, why not just use D&amp;D?The same thing goes for GURPS.&nbsp; If you've modded the game to the point where you're essentially playing D&amp;D, just with a different system, are you still playing the base system anymore?IOW, why bring up homebrewing various systems to emulate D&amp;D?&nbsp; If someone goes through Hero, to the point where they've entirely recreated every single power, SLA and whatnot from D&amp;D, I'd say they've bloody well EARNED the right to call themselves D&amp;D players.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But, it's sort of pointless to talk about how you can play D&amp;D with other systems.&nbsp; We can talk about homebrews all you like, but, the basic point still remains.&nbsp; HERO is not D&amp;D because it's not a level based fantasy system.&nbsp; GURPS is not a level based fantasy system.&nbsp; Palladium is mostly point buy AFAIK, so, again, it's not exactly D&amp;D either, although it's pretty close.Then again, most Palladium players would not call themselves D&amp;D players.&nbsp; Because they are deliberately choosing to play Palladium and not D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5455756, member: 22779"] I'll admit the only Palladium I've played is TMNT and a brief stint of Rifts, ages ago. TMNT didn't have classes, so, I'm not entirely sure about Palladium. The fact that you have to rebuild Hero to emulate D&D doesn't really negate my point. If you've rebuilt Hero to the point where it's simulating D&D, is it really all that different of a game? Of course, the base Hero system doesn't presume that. So, basically, you're playing D&D using a different system. At that point, why not just use D&D? The same thing goes for GURPS. If you've modded the game to the point where you're essentially playing D&D, just with a different system, are you still playing the base system anymore? IOW, why bring up homebrewing various systems to emulate D&D? If someone goes through Hero, to the point where they've entirely recreated every single power, SLA and whatnot from D&D, I'd say they've bloody well EARNED the right to call themselves D&D players. :D But, it's sort of pointless to talk about how you can play D&D with other systems. We can talk about homebrews all you like, but, the basic point still remains. HERO is not D&D because it's not a level based fantasy system. GURPS is not a level based fantasy system. Palladium is mostly point buy AFAIK, so, again, it's not exactly D&D either, although it's pretty close. Then again, most Palladium players would not call themselves D&D players. Because they are deliberately choosing to play Palladium and not D&D. [/QUOTE]

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