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<blockquote data-quote="Aberzanzorax" data-source="post: 5456200" data-attributes="member: 64209">(Separate post because I didn't want it to get lost in my Mea Culpa or specifying of my intent.)&nbsp;Here's another part of the reason, and a potential clarification/deliniation that might (maybe) help clarify the OP. I already mentioned this in brief.&nbsp;The OP mentions Rome, describing it basically as &quot;what gives us that D&amp;D feeling&quot;...claiming the feeling is the same (or very similar) across all players of D&amp;D. (Let's assume, for now, that it does.)&nbsp;If rolemaster, WoW, or even watching Lord of the Rings give me that feeling, then it &quot;Is D&amp;D&quot;. Assuming this is true, there's an interesting phenomenon that follows. Someone who has never played D&amp;D is still engaging in &quot;D&amp;D&quot; by watching Lord of the Rings if it gives them that same emotion, i.e. scratches the same itch. If they later play D&amp;D for the first time and the feeling provided is the same, their Rome might be labled &quot;LotR&quot; to them and D&amp;D to us.&nbsp;For some that boundary may be too broad, for others, maybe not?&nbsp;&nbsp;Here's another division of terms as well: x doesn't give me the feeling of D&amp;D - or more clearly, it doesn't scratch my D&amp;D itch.&nbsp;x doesn't feel like D&amp;D - it doesn't give me the impression that it meets my own personal emotional criteria of D&amp;D.&nbsp;EDIT: a third non-term, but another useful distinction in all of this. I may or may not enjoy the edition/media/experience. This can be separate from whether the experience is or is not D&amp;D to me (hence, sort of a non-term).&nbsp;&nbsp;For me, WoW scratches my D&amp;D itch. I feel as engaged in &quot;D&amp;D/Rome&quot; as when prepping for games (but not as engaged as when actually playing D&amp;D). WoW doesn't feel like D&amp;D to me, though. It's not similar enough in the experience of it to meet my criteria of what D&amp;D is. But I say it doesn't feel like D&amp;D to me, because it might to others.&nbsp;Before anyone addresses WoW again, please note I'm using this as an example. You can substitute Rolemaster, Neverwinter Nights, watching Lord of the Rings, 3e, 4e etc for WoW in all of those statements. &nbsp;&nbsp;So, for instance, I might enjoy 4e (I do), might scratch that D&amp;D itch (it does), and still not meet my emotional criteria of D&amp;D to me (it doesn't).&nbsp;I'll also state I don't really like AD&amp;D much anymore (got kinda burned out on it). So, I don't enjoy AD&amp;D, it probably would still scratch that D&amp;D itch, and it does meet my emotional criteria of D&amp;D to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aberzanzorax, post: 5456200, member: 64209"] (Separate post because I didn't want it to get lost in my Mea Culpa or specifying of my intent.) Here's another part of the reason, and a potential clarification/deliniation that might (maybe) help clarify the OP. I already mentioned this in brief. The OP mentions Rome, describing it basically as "what gives us that D&D feeling"...claiming the feeling is the same (or very similar) across all players of D&D. (Let's assume, for now, that it does.) If rolemaster, WoW, or even watching Lord of the Rings give me that feeling, then it "Is D&D". Assuming this is true, there's an interesting phenomenon that follows. Someone who has never played D&D is still engaging in "D&D" by watching Lord of the Rings if it gives them that same emotion, i.e. scratches the same itch. If they later play D&D for the first time and the feeling provided is the same, their Rome might be labled "LotR" to them and D&D to us. For some that boundary may be too broad, for others, maybe not? [B][U]Here's another division of terms as well: [/U][/B] x doesn't give me the feeling of D&D - or more clearly, [I]it doesn't scratch my D&D itch.[/I] x doesn't feel like D&D - it doesn't give me the impression that it meets [I]my own personal emotional criteria[/I] of D&D. EDIT: a third non-term, but another useful distinction in all of this. I may or may not enjoy the edition/media/experience. This can be separate from whether the experience is or is not D&D to me (hence, sort of a non-term). For me, WoW scratches my D&D itch. I feel as engaged in "D&D/Rome" as when prepping for games (but not as engaged as when actually playing D&D). WoW doesn't feel like D&D to me, though. It's not similar enough in the experience of it to meet my criteria of what D&D is. But I say it doesn't feel like D&D [I]to me[/I], because it might to others. Before anyone addresses WoW again, please note I'm using this as an example. You can substitute Rolemaster, Neverwinter Nights, watching Lord of the Rings, 3e, 4e etc for WoW in all of those statements. So, for instance, I might enjoy 4e (I do), might scratch that D&D itch (it does), and still not meet my emotional criteria of D&D [I]to me[/I] (it doesn't). I'll also state I don't really like AD&D much anymore (got kinda burned out on it). So, I don't enjoy AD&D, it probably would still scratch that D&D itch, and it does meet my emotional criteria of D&D [I]to me[/I]. [/QUOTE]

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