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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5457015" data-attributes="member: 19675">Not really.&nbsp; I chose the HERO D&amp;D cloning to make a point:&nbsp; the &quot;big umbrella,&quot; as Mercurius has refined over the course of this thread, is defined by &quot;feel,&quot; and that's a problem.That 4Ed doesn't give me that feel and that it does for others is OK by Mercurius', yours AND my way of thinking.However, since the very definition of the &quot;big umbrella,&quot; the &quot;D&amp;D experience&quot; is all about feel, despite the fact that inclusion strikes the two of us (and possibly her) as somehow wrong, there is no reason to exclude those games and campaigns that evoke the same feeling we expect from D&amp;D- the aforementioned RM, HERO, and GURPS games.&nbsp; By the very parameters Mercurius sets, since they evoke the same response, they MUST be placed under the &quot;big umbrella.&quot;** &quot;Under the Big Umbrella&quot; was, FWIW, the name of a boargame I played as a tot...the one part i can remember is the rule &quot;Bunnies like it under the Big Umbrella.&nbsp; Ducklings like it in the rain.&quot;. Good times.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5457015, member: 19675"] Not really. I chose the HERO D&D cloning to make a point: the "big umbrella," as Mercurius has refined over the course of this thread, is [I]defined[/I] by "feel," and that's a problem. That 4Ed doesn't give me that feel and that it does for others is OK by Mercurius', yours AND my way of thinking. However, since the very definition of the "big umbrella," the "D&D experience" is all about [I]feel[/I], despite the fact that inclusion strikes the two of us (and possibly her) as somehow wrong, there is [B]no reason [/B]to exclude those games and campaigns that evoke the same feeling we expect from D&D- the aforementioned RM, HERO, and GURPS games. By the very parameters Mercurius sets, since they evoke the same response, they MUST be placed under the "big umbrella."* * "Under the Big Umbrella" was, FWIW, the name of a boargame I played as a tot...the one part i can remember is the rule "Bunnies like it under the Big Umbrella. Ducklings like it in the rain.". Good times. [/QUOTE]

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