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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5461687" data-attributes="member: 8835">lol.I remember pre-4e, explaining to a friend's friend about D&D when he was thinking about joining the group. He had played WoW and asked a lot of questions along the line of role in the party, ala tank, defender, etc.I remember being a bit thrown off.  In all the editions I played (2x-3x) we usually started newbs off on what class we thought they could handle (figher being the baseline), and from there, asked them:do you want to be like a swashbuckling erol flynnan archer dude, maybe like Legolas from LotRa big burly heavy armor wearing guy with a big weaponor like some other fighting guy you've seen in a movieThat basically told us where to put his stats, and what equipment to buy.  No talk of role.  he was the fighter.  Do what yer good at when the game starts.And so it would be with the other classes.Whereas in 4e, that WoW player's talk sounds like it would mesh right into 4e concepts.</blockquote>