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<blockquote data-quote="NoWayJose" data-source="post: 5472669" data-attributes="member: 84810">Not at 90 or 180 degree angles?&nbsp;&nbsp;OK, so then...?&nbsp;1) fiction first: I decide to jump and my PC eyes the gap. Does my PC think he can make it across? What's the rule for jumping?&nbsp;2) rules first: I decide to jump because I know the jump rules and I know the gap distance = exactly 30 feet. In-game, my character also decides to jump, but my knowledge of the rules and the map is really the primary motivator.&nbsp;3) meta-game first: I decide to jump because I have a jump card which I can use 3 x day and I still have one left. After I use that last jump card, I'm not going to be able to jump like that again, regardless of endurance or circumstance. In-game, I have no idea if my character thinks about jumping or not. I can attempt to justify that incongruity with some half-baked narrative, which may or may not succeed at suspending disbelief, but ultimately, it doesn't really matter because I don't have any jump cards left.&nbsp;I think 3E and 4E might be at least equally &quot;guilty&quot; of #2 (rules first), but 4E is usually more &quot;guilty&quot; of #3 (metagame first).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NoWayJose, post: 5472669, member: 84810"] Not at 90 or 180 degree angles? OK, so then...? 1) fiction first: I decide to jump and my PC eyes the gap. Does my PC think he can make it across? What's the rule for jumping? 2) rules first: I decide to jump because I know the jump rules and I know the gap distance = exactly 30 feet. In-game, my character also decides to jump, but my knowledge of the rules and the map is really the primary motivator. 3) meta-game first: I decide to jump because I have a jump card which I can use 3 x day and I still have one left. After I use that last jump card, I'm not going to be able to jump like that again, regardless of endurance or circumstance. In-game, I have no idea if my character thinks about jumping or not. I can attempt to justify that incongruity with some half-baked narrative, which may or may not succeed at suspending disbelief, but ultimately, it doesn't really matter because I don't have any jump cards left. I think 3E and 4E might be at least equally "guilty" of #2 (rules first), but 4E is usually more "guilty" of #3 (metagame first). [/QUOTE]

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