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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5476558" data-attributes="member: 957">Call whatever you want.With regard to the whole narrative burden / &quot;opportunity&quot; aspect of the debate of the topic, I think it is simply a matter of inspection to come to my conclusion.But that doesn't need to be the focus of what you find fun.I will readily concede that 4E is a great game.&nbsp; But Texas Hold'em is also a great game.&nbsp; 4E and 3E have a hell of a lot more in common with each other than they have with Texas Hold'em.&nbsp; And if this specific topic is not important to you then the differences that do exist are not important. I don't doubt for a second that 4E fans have awesome experiences playing 4E.&nbsp; Only an idiot would suggest that other people are not having fun doing something they choose to do for fun.&nbsp; Your 4E games are great.But your great 4E games are not as great at certain things as my 3E games are at those things.&nbsp; And, no less true, my 3E games are not as great at certain things as your 4E games are at those things.&nbsp; They have different strengths and weaknesses.&nbsp; But if you want to say that every strength of 3E is equally present in 4E, then that would just tell me that you are unaware of what you are missing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5476558, member: 957"] Call whatever you want. With regard to the whole narrative burden / "opportunity" aspect of the debate of the topic, I think it is simply a matter of inspection to come to my conclusion. But that doesn't need to be the focus of what you find fun. I will readily concede that 4E is a great game. But Texas Hold'em is also a great game. 4E and 3E have a hell of a lot more in common with each other than they have with Texas Hold'em. And if this specific topic is not important to you then the differences that do exist are not important. I don't doubt for a second that 4E fans have awesome experiences playing 4E. Only an idiot would suggest that other people are not having fun doing something they choose to do for fun. Your 4E games are great. But your great 4E games are not as great at certain things as my 3E games are at those things. And, no less true, my 3E games are not as great at certain things as your 4E games are at those things. They have different strengths and weaknesses. But if you want to say that every strength of 3E is equally present in 4E, then that would just tell me that you are unaware of what you are missing. [/QUOTE]

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