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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3747396" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>I'd have to disagree. The Great Wheel cosmology doesn't support moral/ethical relativism unless you want it to support it. There's no objective force in that system looking down at the alignments and declaring them all equal and equivalent, just different points on a map. That's silly to me.</p><p></p><p>The point I think you're missing, or overlooking, is that the alignments -although at present their relative strength within the planes is somewhat equal- are in a constant state of conflict both among themselves, and in terms of influencing the rest of the cosmos. They've been in conflict since the first primordial forms of the planes precipitated out of nothingness, and each of them views it as a winner takes all game. Good seeks to enlighten everything, law seeks to organize and codify, chaos seeks freedom and flux, and evil seeks a universe devoid of mercy. It's not about them being equal and static, it's about them seeking supremacy for their respective alignments precisely because there is no objective force making them equal and equivalent from on high.</p><p></p><p>There's a very real threat that Evil could win and it puts everyone seeking to promote Good into having to actually truly struggle without the knowledge that they'll succeed ultimately. Good in such a universe faces actual struggle, rather than a sure knowledge that Good is destined to win because it's right and correct and will always win over Evil. Good in the Great Wheel, both celestials and good mortals, struggle and truly work for each triumph they gain, like a saint struggling and persevering even through and despite the profound, harrowing silence of God. Their success is earned, and it's more poignant because of that. Each success is more tangible, more meaningful, and dare I say more heroic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 3747396, member: 11697"] I'd have to disagree. The Great Wheel cosmology doesn't support moral/ethical relativism unless you want it to support it. There's no objective force in that system looking down at the alignments and declaring them all equal and equivalent, just different points on a map. That's silly to me. The point I think you're missing, or overlooking, is that the alignments -although at present their relative strength within the planes is somewhat equal- are in a constant state of conflict both among themselves, and in terms of influencing the rest of the cosmos. They've been in conflict since the first primordial forms of the planes precipitated out of nothingness, and each of them views it as a winner takes all game. Good seeks to enlighten everything, law seeks to organize and codify, chaos seeks freedom and flux, and evil seeks a universe devoid of mercy. It's not about them being equal and static, it's about them seeking supremacy for their respective alignments precisely because there is no objective force making them equal and equivalent from on high. There's a very real threat that Evil could win and it puts everyone seeking to promote Good into having to actually truly struggle without the knowledge that they'll succeed ultimately. Good in such a universe faces actual struggle, rather than a sure knowledge that Good is destined to win because it's right and correct and will always win over Evil. Good in the Great Wheel, both celestials and good mortals, struggle and truly work for each triumph they gain, like a saint struggling and persevering even through and despite the profound, harrowing silence of God. Their success is earned, and it's more poignant because of that. Each success is more tangible, more meaningful, and dare I say more heroic. [/QUOTE]
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