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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 3761791" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>Klaus beat me to it...</p><p></p><p>Yeah, Tarek. Blood war existed in 2e clearly before Planescape.</p><p></p><p>Emnity between demons and devils was alluded to in creature descriptions in the 1e monster books as well, but no blood war <em>per se</em>.</p><p></p><p>Finally, a little philosophy 101 for those who are using the term "absolutist". You are probably using it wrong.</p><p></p><p>Belief that there is a true meaning behind the existence of moral right and wrong is not <em>absolutism</em>. It's <em>moral realism</em>. <em>Moral absolutism</em> is a subset of <em>moral realism</em>, and described moral theories that have at least one undefeasable principle (i.e., principles without exceptions.) But realist moral theories do not need undefeasible principles.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, to the OP... and this has been covered in various ways but it bears repeating... realism does not require that the moral theory state that "good will prevail", only that a true moral right exists. It's clear in the D&D metasetting that it does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 3761791, member: 172"] Klaus beat me to it... Yeah, Tarek. Blood war existed in 2e clearly before Planescape. Emnity between demons and devils was alluded to in creature descriptions in the 1e monster books as well, but no blood war [I]per se[/I]. Finally, a little philosophy 101 for those who are using the term "absolutist". You are probably using it wrong. Belief that there is a true meaning behind the existence of moral right and wrong is not [i]absolutism[/i]. It's [i]moral realism[/i]. [i]Moral absolutism[/i] is a subset of [i]moral realism[/i], and described moral theories that have at least one undefeasable principle (i.e., principles without exceptions.) But realist moral theories do not need undefeasible principles. Anyway, to the OP... and this has been covered in various ways but it bears repeating... realism does not require that the moral theory state that "good will prevail", only that a true moral right exists. It's clear in the D&D metasetting that it does. [/QUOTE]
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