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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8266272" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Firstly, this is false. Full stop. </p><p></p><p>Secondly, you are the only person trying to make it about seriousness of tone. You continue to refuse to acknowledge the existence of the phrase "takes itself seriously". Do you need clarification of what it means, do you disagree with the distinction, do you just not want to deal with it because you're stuck on the seriousness of tone argument that no one else is having?</p><p></p><p>No, we initially started talking about whether or not a work takes itself seriously. You tried to make it about your dismissive condescension toward fantastical works that take themselves seriously. </p><p></p><p>And I'm very confident in saying that the vast majority of people disagree with you on whether DnD is "fundamentally ridiculous", and on whether most of those works are "too serious", on top of your fundamental misunderstanding of what the contention even was that you initially responded to. </p><p></p><p>And I think you're still using "takes its subject matter seriously" incorrectly, because you still seem to be using it to refer to seriousness of tone, rather than whether or not the assumptions of the subject matter are treated as genuine and real within the fiction. Guardians of the Galaxy is a comedy that takes it's subject matter seriously. Man of Steel is a grimdark action-drama that also takes it's subject matter seriously. Taking the subject matter seriously does not determine where on the scale from drama to comedy a work is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8266272, member: 6704184"] Firstly, this is false. Full stop. Secondly, you are the only person trying to make it about seriousness of tone. You continue to refuse to acknowledge the existence of the phrase "takes itself seriously". Do you need clarification of what it means, do you disagree with the distinction, do you just not want to deal with it because you're stuck on the seriousness of tone argument that no one else is having? No, we initially started talking about whether or not a work takes itself seriously. You tried to make it about your dismissive condescension toward fantastical works that take themselves seriously. And I'm very confident in saying that the vast majority of people disagree with you on whether DnD is "fundamentally ridiculous", and on whether most of those works are "too serious", on top of your fundamental misunderstanding of what the contention even was that you initially responded to. And I think you're still using "takes its subject matter seriously" incorrectly, because you still seem to be using it to refer to seriousness of tone, rather than whether or not the assumptions of the subject matter are treated as genuine and real within the fiction. Guardians of the Galaxy is a comedy that takes it's subject matter seriously. Man of Steel is a grimdark action-drama that also takes it's subject matter seriously. Taking the subject matter seriously does not determine where on the scale from drama to comedy a work is. [/QUOTE]
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