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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 278892" data-attributes="member: 326">Hello again mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Thanks mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I always go for the concepts that make the most sense - which in this case is invariably 1st Ed. After which generally Gary Gygax conjecture is among the most useful.Incidently mate did you know that just before the problems at TSR forced Gary out he was about to rework all the entities of the Outer Planes (Orcus, Asmodeus etc.)!? Its annoying to think of it now; but back then Gary was on the verge of writing his own version of the Book of Vile Darkness it seems... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />Can you just imagine if Gary had been able to follow through with his plans; what a book that would have been... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />  I don't see how you can draw that conclusion philosophically (though I think I understand what you mean)  Absolutely. They are cosmic powers, which, even if you presume they have fewer worshippers than their divine peers should be considered deities by the very fact that all power is relative.  Not necessarily. I believe there are Abyssal and Hellish entities up to Overgod level of power - however it is clear that the Demogorgon and Asmodeus we are familiar with are Lesser Gods.I would theorise that Asmodeus is almost certainly the Avatar of a more powerful being. In fact regarding Asmodeus (49 HD/DR 8 Lesser God), I would currently decree that he is the Avatar of Lucifer (98 HD/ DR 18 Greater God); who in turn is the Avatar of Ahriman (196 HD/DR 28 Overgod).I like to think I explain my reasoning well..?  If you have posted it on the WotC boards before (?) I am sure I have already read it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Feel free to post it here and I will be more than happy to comment on it! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Sure - you won't be disappointed mate! Trust me!In fact I just checked ebay and someone is selling the COMPLETE SET of Gord the Rogue novels!Are you an experienced ebayer Serge mate? If not I can give you a few tips - trust me, you want to win this auction!!!I'll email you with all the details.Isn't Furcas in Legions of Hell? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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