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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seasong" data-source="post: 403082" data-attributes="member: 5137">RhialtoHeh. See, now you're a historian <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. I think that mythusmage did a beautiful job of explaining why he might refound the Order (as well as many other things).mythusmage"A corrupt, venal Pope given the aid and protection of the Flowering's first paladin.I can not thank you enough for saying this. This sentence just made my spine tingle <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. And, of course, the rest of it was wonderful.RangerWickettAgreed <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.I don't think anyone here is (outside of the clergical interpretations we are offering up) taking a hard line "God as ultimate reality" approach. Indeed, my personal take on the possible events I offered up (the French King supports the papacy while the English King supports the Flock & Field) is that I, as GM, could decide that either one of them is correct... or that both are tapping their inner faith and making war over mundane differences of opinion.But for the most part, the discussion is more about people's reactions to the Flowering than about the why & how of the Flowering itself.CanisDeepest Africa is a good place for a real cabal of wizards. This was the period of Great Zimbabwe (an African Shona culture that collapsed somewhere around the 1400s). They were undergoing their own crises, as the gold trade that is thought to have created the culture brought a whole host of problems in terms of disintegrating authority.I can't find much on the Shona religious practices prior to Christianity (which Great Zimbabwe was not really exposed to), but today they have strong beliefs in ancestors, cyclopian hauntings, and hostile spirits which are mixed in with Christianity. Priests would probably treat spirits of all sorts in the same manner as undead in Europe; sorcerors would be rare but well respected (many central & southern African heroes possessed uncanny powers and magical insights). Wizards would have been commonly accepted but mistrusted, since they were usually seen as "stealing" power from spirits to work their magic.In all likelihood, an even distribution of strange powers would take place, but those with power would very quickly be accepted into (even encouraged) the ranks of the aristocracy... and only those with a strong religious leaning for the commonfolk (bush rangers and hedge druids, perhaps?) would support them against the new regime of increased authority.And that has just about drained my creativity for this morning <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.Dr. StrangemonkeyActually, what might work well for a priest would be this:Take the wizard, give him access to 5 spheres rather than arcane magic. He chooses a primary sphere just like a cleric, and gets the extra spell per day in that sphere. Rather than metamagic feats, the wizard gets the Turn/Rebuke Undead, ability to channel Cure/Cause Wounds with spell levels, and the usual minor traits that come with being "holy". Replace INT with WIS for spell-related abilities, and use the Cleric's class skills.</blockquote>

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