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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 7690975" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>I hear what you're saying and I understand your point but I think the word &quot;clone&quot; gets misused including in this case.&nbsp; Someone could run a 1E adventure in C&amp;C but I wouldn't call C&amp;C a clone either.&nbsp; &quot;Clone&quot; implies identical such as S&amp;W with (O)D&amp;D or as was said above &quot;Dark Dungeons and BECMI D&amp;D&quot; by rooneg.&nbsp; Even the first PF was a departure from 3.5, hence folks immediately calling it 3.75.&nbsp; I think with the current SRD and some help from the 3.5 SRD, as well as some OGC from other OGL products, a reasonable 5.25 could be produced in the next couple of months.&nbsp; I don't think it is necessary but it appears quite possible.&nbsp; Of course, if someone wants to put in that much work, they might be better off going with the DMGuild avenue and rake in the cake.&nbsp; The conditions for producing another PF just don't exist currently.&nbsp; We'll see what happens in a couple/few years if/when WotC wants to start working on a 6E, the DMGuild begins to show signs of no longer being a revenue source for them, and core books sales have dropped to the point of making new printings a losing bargain.&nbsp; Then a 5.25 might be a consideration, particularly if the rumblings are that 6E won't support the OGL right out of the gate.&nbsp; Having their fortunes too closely tied to D&amp;D and no prospect of a clean 4E OGL was what triggered PF.&nbsp; WotC unleashed a golem designed by Paizo but not of their choosing.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 7690975, member: 10479"] I hear what you're saying and I understand your point but I think the word "clone" gets misused including in this case. Someone could run a 1E adventure in C&C but I wouldn't call C&C a clone either. "Clone" implies identical such as S&W with (O)D&D or as was said above "Dark Dungeons and BECMI D&D" by rooneg. Even the first PF was a departure from 3.5, hence folks immediately calling it 3.75. I think with the current SRD and some help from the 3.5 SRD, as well as some OGC from other OGL products, a reasonable 5.25 could be produced in the next couple of months. I don't think it is necessary but it appears quite possible. Of course, if someone wants to put in that much work, they might be better off going with the DMGuild avenue and rake in the cake. The conditions for producing another PF just don't exist currently. We'll see what happens in a couple/few years if/when WotC wants to start working on a 6E, the DMGuild begins to show signs of no longer being a revenue source for them, and core books sales have dropped to the point of making new printings a losing bargain. Then a 5.25 might be a consideration, particularly if the rumblings are that 6E won't support the OGL right out of the gate. Having their fortunes too closely tied to D&D and no prospect of a clean 4E OGL was what triggered PF. WotC unleashed a golem designed by Paizo but not of their choosing. [/QUOTE]

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