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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 336045" data-attributes="member: 3570">Yes, and its interesting that your cleric can never, ever, take that little white dragon out in one shot.  And really all the PA needs is a critical.  Even if he rolled average on his damage dice your cleric still isn't going to come anywhere close.Of course, your complaint that I've somehow stacked the deck in the PA's favor is nothing more than a smokescreen to cover up the fact the PA can simply do more damage with his bow than your cleric can on the best day of his life.  So set up the absolute best conditions you can imagine for the cleric.  It doesn't matter.  It simply isn't good enough.Typing in caps in no way puts your cleric in the same league as the Peerless Archer.  He'll "ALWAYS" have a better BAB?  Even after his buffs are dispelled?  In an anti-magic field?  Before he prepares his spells?  If he pisses off his god?  Yeah, that's what I thought.  You can set up situations where the PA is at a disadvantage (such as when he rolls poorly) and I can set up situations where your cleric is a glorified nothing with his bow (like when his divine crutches are unavailable).The issue is what do these guys do at their best, when none of their abilities are crippled?  What does your cleric do?  He gets shown up by the Peerless Archer.  That's just the way it is.It doesn't mean your cleric isn't a valid addition to the party.  After my Peerless Archer works up an appetite beating your cleric in an archery contest, you can use your magic to create a nice little meal to fill his belly, and some water to parch his thirst.</blockquote>

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