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Message: <blockquote data-quote="apoptosis" data-source="post: 4018972" data-attributes="member: 3226">Basically it is a forum where people theorized about why people play games and how game design can influence the fun that is achieved by certain playstyles.It really was more of a theorizing of some reasons why people used to get in arguments over game rules and play styles. They just decided to use some specific terminology to better discuss these ideas.They were by no means the first to look at the issues, they ended up just having a lot of voices that did it (and one very vocal voice in Ron Edwards)It really is no different than this entire Ring debate. The only difference is that they use more specific terminology (which like many field of knowledge, they defined for their use).Why I don't always agree with the ideas on the Forge (frankly there are a lot of people there) they do many times bring up interesting analyses of gaming, game play and game design.Many people don't like the Forge as the people at the Forge sometimes do not speak well about certain game systems (usually the negative term they use is incoherent, though I am sure worse words have been used).It all depends on whether you care about theories behind gaming. People design and play games without lots of meditating on the overall agenda and theory behind them and sometimes they work and sometimes they don't.The Forge just tried to approach it in a more academic sense (which makes sense as Ron Edwards is a biology professor).Honestly I believe many of the issues that are brought up at the Forge are very similar to issues that people bring up here, they just tend to codify them in more consistent terminology.It goes back to the Ring debate, the HP debate, game balance etc. We all complain and take issues with many of these issues. Forge theories are just one (i generally think very good) way of discussing these issues and possibly come to greater understanding of the core problems and solutions.</blockquote>

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