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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8777450" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>They've been being removed <em>since 2e</em>, at the <em>absolute</em> latest.</p><p></p><p>The limits were hard, pervasive, and strong in OD&D. They got lessened in 1e. They got further lessened in 2e, before being dropped almost entirely in 3e, after which, they've never come back.</p><p></p><p>Why, if so may people are so happy with this, didn't the D&D Next playtest reveal that? Why was it never even <em>considered</em>?</p><p></p><p>Because the designers don't want it--and they have sufficient data to back up not doing it. It's that simple. You saw how quick they were to drop the playtest Sorcerer and Warlock, despite those now being pretty well recognized as great ideas. If the "silent majority" wanted to jump through hoops to get their spells, you can bet your britches the designers would have known. So either they--for some unknown reason--defied player expectations and desires on this one issue, despite otherwise bending over backwards, <em>or</em> this supposed majority that loves this stuff <em>doesn't exist.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8777450, member: 6790260"] They've been being removed [I]since 2e[/I], at the [I]absolute[/I] latest. The limits were hard, pervasive, and strong in OD&D. They got lessened in 1e. They got further lessened in 2e, before being dropped almost entirely in 3e, after which, they've never come back. Why, if so may people are so happy with this, didn't the D&D Next playtest reveal that? Why was it never even [I]considered[/I]? Because the designers don't want it--and they have sufficient data to back up not doing it. It's that simple. You saw how quick they were to drop the playtest Sorcerer and Warlock, despite those now being pretty well recognized as great ideas. If the "silent majority" wanted to jump through hoops to get their spells, you can bet your britches the designers would have known. So either they--for some unknown reason--defied player expectations and desires on this one issue, despite otherwise bending over backwards, [I]or[/I] this supposed majority that loves this stuff [I]doesn't exist.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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