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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8778843" data-attributes="member: 82504">and they have chosen to remove the spam guard for  their stories ...spam is not a game problem really its a story problem. Or am I wrong spam problems make game imbalances way more obvious and impactful ... spam guards reduce the scope of imbalance effects and isnt that a game issue not a story issue.That bit about being able to spam your lower level effects a bit less efficiently (so you may not wish to) after you level up kind of makes sense and I am thinking its better than I thought it was.I completely understand I also find LU a much better 5e foundation. I am not sure higher level maneuvers in level up are fully tuned in the way we are talking about but it seems a start.  A minor example : The horizon shot is cool and mythic but its more a case of ultra situational (and not really powerful at all unless its repeatable which might get too powerful fast) you could know it at lower rank with no issue.</blockquote>