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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8793926" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Heh, there's debugging and then there's rewriting entire sections of the rules to make them work.</p><p></p><p>4e needed a lot of debugging. As in it had bugs that didn't really stop the game from being played, but, did detract from the experience. And, to be fair, 5e didn't need a lot of that - the underpinnings of the math isn't too bad. But, because we're not allowed to give specific advice or have specific rules lest we step on the whole "rulings not rules" thing, 5e does require a LOT of oversight because there just aren't any rules or the rules are very vague.</p><p></p><p>I mean a perfect example came up in our last session. The group, in order to infiltrate a sahuagin underwater base used polymorph to turn into octopuses. Now, the spell says that you keep your personality, but, you have the intelligence of your new form. Can the PC's actually achieve their goal using polymorph or not? 100% DM interpretation. </p><p></p><p>If the PC polymorphs the fighter into a T-Rex (or a giant ape), will the PC attack allies? Why not? It now has the brain the size of a walnut. Basically, it's a shark on legs. Why would it distinguish friend from foe?</p><p></p><p>Again, 100% DM adjudication. Not impossible, of course, but, if I was 14 years old again, and a new DM, I can imagine that that sort of thing gets handled ... less than perfectly the first time around.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8793926, member: 22779"] Heh, there's debugging and then there's rewriting entire sections of the rules to make them work. 4e needed a lot of debugging. As in it had bugs that didn't really stop the game from being played, but, did detract from the experience. And, to be fair, 5e didn't need a lot of that - the underpinnings of the math isn't too bad. But, because we're not allowed to give specific advice or have specific rules lest we step on the whole "rulings not rules" thing, 5e does require a LOT of oversight because there just aren't any rules or the rules are very vague. I mean a perfect example came up in our last session. The group, in order to infiltrate a sahuagin underwater base used polymorph to turn into octopuses. Now, the spell says that you keep your personality, but, you have the intelligence of your new form. Can the PC's actually achieve their goal using polymorph or not? 100% DM interpretation. If the PC polymorphs the fighter into a T-Rex (or a giant ape), will the PC attack allies? Why not? It now has the brain the size of a walnut. Basically, it's a shark on legs. Why would it distinguish friend from foe? Again, 100% DM adjudication. Not impossible, of course, but, if I was 14 years old again, and a new DM, I can imagine that that sort of thing gets handled ... less than perfectly the first time around. [/QUOTE]
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