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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8380064" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>I agree but some of those examples aren't causing problems forthe players, the NPC party, the NPC questgivers, or the world as a whole.</p><p></p><p>Dark and brooding fighters, rogues, warlocks, and rangers are tropey and annoying but not disruptive. They become disruptive when they refuse to act and choose to sit around to brood for one reason or another.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Artificer<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mad Scientist who only uses infusing on themself or an ally inefficiently.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Barbarian: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rage Machine who attacks enemies, allies, neutrals, and objects alike</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bard: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>Just Horny and Promiscuous</u></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cavalier<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Upholder of social class norms and obsessed with mounts and collecting mounts.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cleric<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Fake pacifist, only heals in-combat but will smite evil when <em>encountering heretics, apostates, and religious enemies (real or fake)</em></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Druid: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>TN slothful backstabber druid of "Balance"</u></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dark and Blooding warrior who refuses to help questgivers unless it involves their personal story</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Monk<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>Ice Cream Koan-sprouting faux-mystic kungfu dude</u> <em>who doesn't communicate clearly.</em></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Paladin<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lawful Stupid Moral Policeman that does more evil than good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BONUS: Dark Oathbraker who is just leveling up to become a villain later</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psion<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>Mind-reader seventeen steps ahead of everyone else </u>who uses mind control often</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ranger<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blatant racist who only fights favored enemies or in favored terrains</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>Greedy Loner with a "dark past"</u></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Thief-Acobat<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A literal clown</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sorcerer: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><u>My Little Arsonist who causes collateral damage and throws around random spells for no reason</u></li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shaman<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">New Age Philosophy-spouting faux-mystic cauldron-stirring dude</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BONUS: Creep who lugs around spirits of dead family members, friends, and/or allies</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warlock: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Insane Evil Doomsday Cultist in love with Patron</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warlord<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Insufferable busybodies who see themselves as "in charge" and "calling the shots."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BONUS: Follower collector who "suicides" his men</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wizard: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Haughty knowitall</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BONUS: Mr. Attack spells are for Idiots</li> </ul></li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>Question:</p><p></p><p>Which class is the one with the trope of being obsessed with collecting magic items? 50% of my D&D life has a "Magic Item! GIMME NOW!" PC but they range from fighters, wizards, and artificers. Christmas Tree Fighters or Wizards with 3d6 magic staffs/wands.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8380064, member: 63508"] I agree but some of those examples aren't causing problems forthe players, the NPC party, the NPC questgivers, or the world as a whole. Dark and brooding fighters, rogues, warlocks, and rangers are tropey and annoying but not disruptive. They become disruptive when they refuse to act and choose to sit around to brood for one reason or another. [LIST] [*]Artificer [LIST] [*]Mad Scientist who only uses infusing on themself or an ally inefficiently. [/LIST] [*]Barbarian: [LIST] [*]Rage Machine who attacks enemies, allies, neutrals, and objects alike [/LIST] [*]Bard: [LIST] [*][U]Just Horny and Promiscuous[/U] [/LIST] [*]Cavalier [LIST] [*]Upholder of social class norms and obsessed with mounts and collecting mounts. [/LIST] [*]Cleric [LIST] [*] Fake pacifist, only heals in-combat but will smite evil when [I]encountering heretics, apostates, and religious enemies (real or fake)[/I] [/LIST] [*]Druid: [LIST] [*][U]TN slothful backstabber druid of "Balance"[/U] [/LIST] [*]Fighter [LIST] [*]Dark and Blooding warrior who refuses to help questgivers unless it involves their personal story [/LIST] [*]Monk [LIST] [*][U]Ice Cream Koan-sprouting faux-mystic kungfu dude[/U] [I]who doesn't communicate clearly.[/I] [/LIST] [*]Paladin [LIST] [*]Lawful Stupid Moral Policeman that does more evil than good [*]BONUS: Dark Oathbraker who is just leveling up to become a villain later [/LIST] [*]Psion [LIST] [*][U]Mind-reader seventeen steps ahead of everyone else [/U]who uses mind control often [/LIST] [*]Ranger [LIST] [*]Blatant racist who only fights favored enemies or in favored terrains [/LIST] [*]Rogue: [LIST] [*][U]Greedy Loner with a "dark past"[/U] [/LIST] [*]Thief-Acobat [LIST] [*]A literal clown [/LIST] [*]Sorcerer: [LIST] [*][U]My Little Arsonist who causes collateral damage and throws around random spells for no reason[/U] [/LIST] [*]Shaman [LIST] [*]New Age Philosophy-spouting faux-mystic cauldron-stirring dude [*]BONUS: Creep who lugs around spirits of dead family members, friends, and/or allies [/LIST] [*]Warlock: [LIST] [*]Insane Evil Doomsday Cultist in love with Patron [/LIST] [*]Warlord [LIST] [*]Insufferable busybodies who see themselves as "in charge" and "calling the shots." [*]BONUS: Follower collector who "suicides" his men [/LIST] [*]Wizard: [LIST] [*]Haughty knowitall [*]BONUS: Mr. Attack spells are for Idiots [/LIST] [/LIST] Question: Which class is the one with the trope of being obsessed with collecting magic items? 50% of my D&D life has a "Magic Item! GIMME NOW!" PC but they range from fighters, wizards, and artificers. Christmas Tree Fighters or Wizards with 3d6 magic staffs/wands. [/QUOTE]
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