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<blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 6867786" data-attributes="member: 40233">What Zardnar said.&nbsp; Also, what you said is my point.&nbsp; Because a dex fighter can easily tank his strength, and pay very little penalty for it.&nbsp; The reverse is not true. A Strength fighter could use a bow--he wouldn't be very effective with it, but he doesn't really have any other options.&nbsp; A dex fighter could use a greatsword, but he wouldn't be very effective with it, but he does have other options.&nbsp; Even with point buy, a dex fighter can easily spread his points around, to be good at the social and exploration game by having decent intelligence and charisma, while losing nothing in combat (or just max out Constitution and Wisdom to completely dominate), while a strength fighter actually loses effectiveness at his main skill in order to have a few extra points in Int or Charisma.ADDENDUM:&nbsp; When I get to play, I usually play standard human, exactly because I like all those pretty numbers and having bonuses at lots of different things.&nbsp; So I've usually got a 14 in my Dexterity even when I'm playing a Strength focussed character.&nbsp; But I also know that my choice to have that isn't making me a more powerful character, even if it does make me a little more flexible.&nbsp; But that's a choice I've made, and one the costs of that choice is I'll be overshadowed by others at the table who chose to make more focussed characters.&nbsp; And the dex&nbsp; primary guys are often more flexible than my character while sacrificing almost nothing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Salamandyr, post: 6867786, member: 40233"] What Zardnar said. Also, what you said is my point. Because a dex fighter can [I]easily[/I] tank his strength, and pay very little penalty for it. The reverse is [I]not[/I] true. A Strength fighter [I]could[/I] use a bow--he wouldn't be very effective with it, but he doesn't really have any other options. A dex fighter [I]could[/I] use a greatsword, but he wouldn't be very effective with it, but he does have other options. Even with point buy, a dex fighter can easily spread his points around, to be good at the social and exploration game by having decent intelligence and charisma, while losing nothing in combat (or just max out Constitution and Wisdom to completely dominate), while a strength fighter actually loses effectiveness at his main skill in order to have a few extra points in Int or Charisma. ADDENDUM: When I get to play, I usually play standard human, exactly because I like all those pretty numbers and having bonuses at lots of different things. So I've usually got a 14 in my Dexterity even when I'm playing a Strength focussed character. But I also know that my choice to have that isn't making me a more powerful character, even if it does make me a little more flexible. But that's a choice I've made, and one the costs of that choice is I'll be overshadowed by others at the table who chose to make more focussed characters. And the dex primary guys are often [I]more[/I] flexible than my character while sacrificing almost nothing. [/QUOTE]

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