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<blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5162851" data-attributes="member: 54707"><p>I have to admit that this was the one aspect of the article I found most interesting. </p><p></p><p>Since 9/11 I have had a huge personal interest in how the individual and the private citizen can become both a security asset to his own community, state, and nation, and how the individual can develop their own Intelligence and Information Network(s). Not long after 9/11 I started developing, with the assistance of some buddies of mine in the military and in law enforcement a system I call PIIN. <em>Private Intelligence and Information Networks</em>. (I'm still adding things onto, and/or modifying the original paper and concept.) The concept is simple. Just build and maintain your own private intelligence and information network to use to help you with whatever it is you're engaged in; business, art, science, for military and/or law enforcement applications, whatever. In my personal opinion, any citizen or individual who wants to possess one should do so, and the internet is obviously a very good resource, and an important component of such networks. (A lot of people are doing this already they just haven't formalized or organized the concept or put their networks to specific uses. In other words, even without realizing it they have been building up such networks over time, but they haven't been exploiting them to help themselves and others in the way they could if they better utilized the networks and resources they already possess.) PIINs are especially useful when you want to gather information and Intel from parts of the world you can't normally reach or monitor for yourself. As when you cluster such networks, so that they interact and inter-relate on a regular basis, then you have a powerful tool that can be used for many advantages and benefits. </p><p></p><p>Now I have to admit that generally speaking, I'm not a huge fan of much of the internet. But as far as an information and intelligence gathering (and sharing) system it is unparalleled (though like with all Intel and information sources, you have to properly vet your sources for reliability and real usefulness), and not very often properly exploited as to its full potential.</p><p></p><p>When I read the bits about how the individuals and teams were tracking the subject, I was quite impressed with the innovation, originality, and ingeniousness of some of the manhunting approaches. Especially as regards the electronic tracking and detective work.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, like with the Renaissance Gild I encourage any individual who desires to do so to form up their own Private Information and Intelligence Networks. Then use them to whatever benefit they can put them, both for themselves, and to help others. Unfortunately, as far as I'm concerned the federal government (and in many cases state and local governments and organizations) has never really properly understood the potential of modern technology and how it can be cleverly and beneficially exploited by individuals (rather than just by corporate groups and agencies).</p><p></p><p>I think this article just demonstrates yet again how ingenious the individual can be and how overlooked their potential can be when it is employed creatively.</p><p></p><p>So yes, the effectiveness of the Investigative Teams and the Crowd-Sourcing in this article just proved to me yet again that the innovation of individuals put to a task and able to employ interlinked technology is extremely under-utilized. I encourage PIINs and Private Networks whenever anyone will listen. They can be extremely effective and often times far more efficient and flexible than professional and more tightly organized networks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It depends on exactly why you're trying to vanish, and from whom, and exactly who might have to or would want to dedicate the resources necessary to actually find you. After all, if you're alive, and not completely isolated, then chances are you can be found eventually. Trouble is though, what kind of resources would be necessary to really track you? As you implied it's a lot easier to escape being tracked on the electronic grid than it is to escape all human observation, in most cases. Then again it takes a lot of legwork, motivation, money, dedicated resources, and time to do actual physical tracking. </p><p></p><p>But given that one caveat, I agree absolutely with what you said.</p><p></p><p>If you really want to vanish then colorless is the way to go. So is shapeless and formless. As much as you can make yourself those things anyways. The art of human invisibility is, after all, not really being invisible, that is almost impossible. Rather it is the art of being so bland and inconspicuous, so much a part of the background, that few people if any will bother to ever try and notice the difference between you and the background environment. </p><p></p><p>The best and most important thing I ever learned about working undercover is this: the best camouflage is not when you're hiding from sight, it's when you're right in the middle of the crowd and yet no-one can see you. Because you look like you're exactly where you're supposed to be, and what and who you're supposed to be. And when you look like you're exactly where you're supposed to be, and who and what you're supposed to be, even when people see you, they don't understand what they're really looking at. And that's a good way to look when you're not really who you are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's an interesting subject to me too. Cause I had to learn those kinds of things the hard way, through trial and error. </p><p></p><p>I think this kind of thing, in general, should be taught far more often when undergoing security training. The best kinda security to me is not making a stupid or dangerous mistake because you don't know how the other guy is working, or how to counter that. Better some effort at avoidance, than an assurance of apprehension.</p><p></p><p></p><p>By the way, I appreciate the experience points and compliments that some of you sent me on the article. Thanks, and don't think I'm not appreciative. But it wasn't my article and if not for an old Intel buddy, I probably would have never seen it. But he and I both dig stuff like this, and so he got me to read it. But I can't take credit for the find.</p><p></p><p>I did though think that some of you here might also have an interest. Glad you liked it.</p><p></p><p>Hope some of you found it useful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack7, post: 5162851, member: 54707"] I have to admit that this was the one aspect of the article I found most interesting. Since 9/11 I have had a huge personal interest in how the individual and the private citizen can become both a security asset to his own community, state, and nation, and how the individual can develop their own Intelligence and Information Network(s). Not long after 9/11 I started developing, with the assistance of some buddies of mine in the military and in law enforcement a system I call PIIN. [I]Private Intelligence and Information Networks[/I]. (I'm still adding things onto, and/or modifying the original paper and concept.) The concept is simple. Just build and maintain your own private intelligence and information network to use to help you with whatever it is you're engaged in; business, art, science, for military and/or law enforcement applications, whatever. In my personal opinion, any citizen or individual who wants to possess one should do so, and the internet is obviously a very good resource, and an important component of such networks. (A lot of people are doing this already they just haven't formalized or organized the concept or put their networks to specific uses. In other words, even without realizing it they have been building up such networks over time, but they haven't been exploiting them to help themselves and others in the way they could if they better utilized the networks and resources they already possess.) PIINs are especially useful when you want to gather information and Intel from parts of the world you can't normally reach or monitor for yourself. As when you cluster such networks, so that they interact and inter-relate on a regular basis, then you have a powerful tool that can be used for many advantages and benefits. Now I have to admit that generally speaking, I'm not a huge fan of much of the internet. But as far as an information and intelligence gathering (and sharing) system it is unparalleled (though like with all Intel and information sources, you have to properly vet your sources for reliability and real usefulness), and not very often properly exploited as to its full potential. When I read the bits about how the individuals and teams were tracking the subject, I was quite impressed with the innovation, originality, and ingeniousness of some of the manhunting approaches. Especially as regards the electronic tracking and detective work. Anyhow, like with the Renaissance Gild I encourage any individual who desires to do so to form up their own Private Information and Intelligence Networks. Then use them to whatever benefit they can put them, both for themselves, and to help others. Unfortunately, as far as I'm concerned the federal government (and in many cases state and local governments and organizations) has never really properly understood the potential of modern technology and how it can be cleverly and beneficially exploited by individuals (rather than just by corporate groups and agencies). I think this article just demonstrates yet again how ingenious the individual can be and how overlooked their potential can be when it is employed creatively. So yes, the effectiveness of the Investigative Teams and the Crowd-Sourcing in this article just proved to me yet again that the innovation of individuals put to a task and able to employ interlinked technology is extremely under-utilized. I encourage PIINs and Private Networks whenever anyone will listen. They can be extremely effective and often times far more efficient and flexible than professional and more tightly organized networks. It depends on exactly why you're trying to vanish, and from whom, and exactly who might have to or would want to dedicate the resources necessary to actually find you. After all, if you're alive, and not completely isolated, then chances are you can be found eventually. Trouble is though, what kind of resources would be necessary to really track you? As you implied it's a lot easier to escape being tracked on the electronic grid than it is to escape all human observation, in most cases. Then again it takes a lot of legwork, motivation, money, dedicated resources, and time to do actual physical tracking. But given that one caveat, I agree absolutely with what you said. If you really want to vanish then colorless is the way to go. So is shapeless and formless. As much as you can make yourself those things anyways. The art of human invisibility is, after all, not really being invisible, that is almost impossible. Rather it is the art of being so bland and inconspicuous, so much a part of the background, that few people if any will bother to ever try and notice the difference between you and the background environment. The best and most important thing I ever learned about working undercover is this: the best camouflage is not when you're hiding from sight, it's when you're right in the middle of the crowd and yet no-one can see you. Because you look like you're exactly where you're supposed to be, and what and who you're supposed to be. And when you look like you're exactly where you're supposed to be, and who and what you're supposed to be, even when people see you, they don't understand what they're really looking at. And that's a good way to look when you're not really who you are. That's an interesting subject to me too. Cause I had to learn those kinds of things the hard way, through trial and error. I think this kind of thing, in general, should be taught far more often when undergoing security training. The best kinda security to me is not making a stupid or dangerous mistake because you don't know how the other guy is working, or how to counter that. Better some effort at avoidance, than an assurance of apprehension. By the way, I appreciate the experience points and compliments that some of you sent me on the article. Thanks, and don't think I'm not appreciative. But it wasn't my article and if not for an old Intel buddy, I probably would have never seen it. But he and I both dig stuff like this, and so he got me to read it. But I can't take credit for the find. I did though think that some of you here might also have an interest. Glad you liked it. Hope some of you found it useful. [/QUOTE]
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