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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NoWayJose" data-source="post: 5265475" data-attributes="member: 84810">Man, I feel like I'm trying to pull out a tooth. It is clear as day to me that the above makes no sense. The horde isn't a liquidy swarm monster that is greater than the sum of its parts. Each minion is a discrete unit and must be treated as such. Each minion has NO karma and can die from a simple knife wound or punch to the head, but an area spell causing damage in the double digits, so utterly destructive that it OBLITERATES THE LEADER even at half damage, somehow leaves the minions completely unscathed. That massive conflageration, which utterly destroys the leader and lieutenant and other beasts, leaves the hapless unfortunate decrepit minions miraculously alive for no apparent reason. Meanwhile, another minion on the other side of the chamber, who was lucky enough to be outside the reach of the spell, is killed when a hero farts on him. For the record, I would never defend the plausibility of 3E mechanics that clearly make no sense. I would just admit: I admit it's not believable and/or I don't care. But I wouldn't BS that it was believable when it clearly isn't.</blockquote>