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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7714514" data-attributes="member: 22779">Really?&nbsp; Now that I do not agree with at all.&nbsp; While, sure, you don't see games like Advanced Squad Leader coming out too often anymore, frankly, you almost never did before either.&nbsp; Until the 90's, the vast majority of board games were the fairly bog standard Monopoly style games.&nbsp; Now, you have all the Eurostyle games, starting with grandaddy Catan on forward, where you have levels of complexity from fairly simple, like Catan to extremely complicated, like Eclipse or Civilization.&nbsp; The notion that board games have been &quot;dumbed down&quot; is not something I agree with at all.What do you mean &quot;now&quot;?&nbsp; Sorry, but, I'm 45 years old.&nbsp; Nearly no one my age or older can do simple arithmetic in their head.&nbsp; Again, this smells a lot like &quot;git off my lawn&quot;.&nbsp; No, sorry, people's math skills have not attrophied.&nbsp; People today are the same as they were thirty or fifty years ago.&nbsp; Except possibly better read considering that reading for pleasure was virtually unheard of in my generation.Oh, that's crap.&nbsp; I'm sorry, but, that's complete crap.&nbsp; Back in the day, groups often had 1 PHB and 1 DMG.&nbsp; The idea that they've been trained by video games for games to be free is a load of hooey.&nbsp; Casual players who never buy anything have made up a majority of players since day 1.&nbsp; This thread has gone from an interesting comparison between heavy and light systems, to someone sitting on their front porch blaming all the young'uns about today's problems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7714514, member: 22779"] Really? Now that I do not agree with at all. While, sure, you don't see games like Advanced Squad Leader coming out too often anymore, frankly, you almost never did before either. Until the 90's, the vast majority of board games were the fairly bog standard Monopoly style games. Now, you have all the Eurostyle games, starting with grandaddy Catan on forward, where you have levels of complexity from fairly simple, like Catan to extremely complicated, like Eclipse or Civilization. The notion that board games have been "dumbed down" is not something I agree with at all. What do you mean "now"? Sorry, but, I'm 45 years old. Nearly no one my age or older can do simple arithmetic in their head. Again, this smells a lot like "git off my lawn". No, sorry, people's math skills have not attrophied. People today are the same as they were thirty or fifty years ago. Except possibly better read considering that reading for pleasure was virtually unheard of in my generation. Oh, that's crap. I'm sorry, but, that's complete crap. Back in the day, groups often had 1 PHB and 1 DMG. The idea that they've been trained by video games for games to be free is a load of hooey. Casual players who never buy anything have made up a majority of players since day 1. This thread has gone from an interesting comparison between heavy and light systems, to someone sitting on their front porch blaming all the young'uns about today's problems. [/QUOTE]

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