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<blockquote data-quote="ArchfiendBobbie" data-source="post: 7714525" data-attributes="member: 6867728"><p>Yeah. "Stuff I Interpreted From Watching Them Do All Those Damned Kickstarters," ArchfiendBobbie, Miskatonic University Journal of Business, December 15th, 2016.</p><p></p><p>(I hope you got a laugh.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Savage Worlds is actually a bit more complex. Take a good, long look at the rules for vehicle chases, certain bits of magic, etc. 5E core rules involve a lot less wonkiness and a lot fewer special cases as long as you're not throwing in optional mechanics like crazy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Been. Asked. Got that answer from everyone, including WotC.</p><p></p><p>Asked them the follow-up question of, "How many complain about the complexity of your rules?" The more complex the rules were, the more complaints they got.</p><p></p><p>Followed up with a third question of, "How many buy your stuff here?" The answers broke down along lines expected due to a combination of marketing and how well-known they are, though I noticed Paizo's answer was lower than Pinnacle Entertainment's and WotC's.</p><p></p><p>Call it junk all you want... but go ask the people at Paizo directly why they don't do PDF subscriptions. They'll tell you flat-out they can't afford the profit loss. Assuming that you don't get fifty million people quoting you and referring you to one of the dozens of other times people asked that question and got that same answer.</p><p></p><p>Ask that of Pinnacle Entertainment, and they'll flat-out tell you they simply don't do subscriptions because they don't need to. And WotC will, if asked about PDFs, do their normal verbal shrug or point you to Fantasy Grounds in their typical "we don't really care" tone.</p><p></p><p>If you want more fun? Go take a look at the release dates of their products. WotC never had a fast schedule on 5E, so it's no surprise they're not bothering with new releases that often. Pinnacle Entertainment pretty much treats Savage Worlds like hobby income, so it's really no surprise they have a schedule of "when we feel like it" for how fast they get products out. But Paizo, for whom Pathfinder has been serious since day one? They're ramping down their production schedule in Pathfinder; new Campaign, Companion, and Modules are being released on a reduced schedule as of late and now they're going bi-monthly with the APs. What does it tell you that rather than ramp up production with a new product coming out, they're ramping down and devoting half their resources to that new product?</p><p></p><p>I want Paizo to succeed as well. They're a good company, and their products are amazing. Golarion you can run nearly any form of fantasy you can imagine in without changing to a different setting. But the same attention to detail that had them producing so many products for so long has bit them on the rear hard, and you can see it both with how they're ramping down Pathfinder production even before Starfinder was an announced project and in how they're planning to treat Starfinder. And you can hear it every time they admit that allowing pure PDF subscriptions would put them out of business.</p><p></p><p>Edit: And because this post was depressing, I invite everyone to contemplate Ponyfinder. Because Ponyfinder is awesome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArchfiendBobbie, post: 7714525, member: 6867728"] Yeah. "Stuff I Interpreted From Watching Them Do All Those Damned Kickstarters," ArchfiendBobbie, Miskatonic University Journal of Business, December 15th, 2016. (I hope you got a laugh.) Savage Worlds is actually a bit more complex. Take a good, long look at the rules for vehicle chases, certain bits of magic, etc. 5E core rules involve a lot less wonkiness and a lot fewer special cases as long as you're not throwing in optional mechanics like crazy. Been. Asked. Got that answer from everyone, including WotC. Asked them the follow-up question of, "How many complain about the complexity of your rules?" The more complex the rules were, the more complaints they got. Followed up with a third question of, "How many buy your stuff here?" The answers broke down along lines expected due to a combination of marketing and how well-known they are, though I noticed Paizo's answer was lower than Pinnacle Entertainment's and WotC's. Call it junk all you want... but go ask the people at Paizo directly why they don't do PDF subscriptions. They'll tell you flat-out they can't afford the profit loss. Assuming that you don't get fifty million people quoting you and referring you to one of the dozens of other times people asked that question and got that same answer. Ask that of Pinnacle Entertainment, and they'll flat-out tell you they simply don't do subscriptions because they don't need to. And WotC will, if asked about PDFs, do their normal verbal shrug or point you to Fantasy Grounds in their typical "we don't really care" tone. If you want more fun? Go take a look at the release dates of their products. WotC never had a fast schedule on 5E, so it's no surprise they're not bothering with new releases that often. Pinnacle Entertainment pretty much treats Savage Worlds like hobby income, so it's really no surprise they have a schedule of "when we feel like it" for how fast they get products out. But Paizo, for whom Pathfinder has been serious since day one? They're ramping down their production schedule in Pathfinder; new Campaign, Companion, and Modules are being released on a reduced schedule as of late and now they're going bi-monthly with the APs. What does it tell you that rather than ramp up production with a new product coming out, they're ramping down and devoting half their resources to that new product? I want Paizo to succeed as well. They're a good company, and their products are amazing. Golarion you can run nearly any form of fantasy you can imagine in without changing to a different setting. But the same attention to detail that had them producing so many products for so long has bit them on the rear hard, and you can see it both with how they're ramping down Pathfinder production even before Starfinder was an announced project and in how they're planning to treat Starfinder. And you can hear it every time they admit that allowing pure PDF subscriptions would put them out of business. Edit: And because this post was depressing, I invite everyone to contemplate Ponyfinder. Because Ponyfinder is awesome. [/QUOTE]
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