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The diminishing effectiveness of armour across the editions
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8038655" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Plate armour is basically specially curved sheet steel and although it needs to be reasonably well fitting it doesn't need to be form-fitting. You can have basic size categories and then you make the rondels (disks to cover the armpits), and the shoulder, elbow, and knee armour all overlap with the armour pieces either side so if the wearer is compact there will be a large overlap, and lanky a small one.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Italian_-_Sallet_-_Walters_51580.jpg/800px-Italian_-_Sallet_-_Walters_51580.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>Actual historical full plate armour was frequently mass produced in batches of a thousand or more back in the mid 1400s. And now as then the hard thing to actually mass produce is chain because those links need to be manually closed (and riveted if you're doing the job properly). </p><p></p><p>The problem comes because even the best funded historical props department doesn't want to keep a thousand suits of plate armour around and most productions don't have the spare money or vision to retool an entire factory to produce nothing but almost identical plate armour for their actors. For a short run where we don't want to take over an entire factory a chain hauberk can be made by basically unskilled labour using drawn wire (cheap) in their bedroom (as many reenactors have done) and Hollywood can get away with butting rather than riveting the links, which makes it take about a third of the time.</p><p></p><p>Plate armour can be and actually historically was mass produced. It's just not economical to do so because outside Hollywood (and a few other productions like Game of Thrones) there's almost no demand, and Hollywood generally wants clothing to be expressive and thus seldom identical. And these days they'd probably just CGI on plate armour anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8038655, member: 87792"] Plate armour is basically specially curved sheet steel and although it needs to be reasonably well fitting it doesn't need to be form-fitting. You can have basic size categories and then you make the rondels (disks to cover the armpits), and the shoulder, elbow, and knee armour all overlap with the armour pieces either side so if the wearer is compact there will be a large overlap, and lanky a small one. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Italian_-_Sallet_-_Walters_51580.jpg/800px-Italian_-_Sallet_-_Walters_51580.jpg[/IMG] Actual historical full plate armour was frequently mass produced in batches of a thousand or more back in the mid 1400s. And now as then the hard thing to actually mass produce is chain because those links need to be manually closed (and riveted if you're doing the job properly). The problem comes because even the best funded historical props department doesn't want to keep a thousand suits of plate armour around and most productions don't have the spare money or vision to retool an entire factory to produce nothing but almost identical plate armour for their actors. For a short run where we don't want to take over an entire factory a chain hauberk can be made by basically unskilled labour using drawn wire (cheap) in their bedroom (as many reenactors have done) and Hollywood can get away with butting rather than riveting the links, which makes it take about a third of the time. Plate armour can be and actually historically was mass produced. It's just not economical to do so because outside Hollywood (and a few other productions like Game of Thrones) there's almost no demand, and Hollywood generally wants clothing to be expressive and thus seldom identical. And these days they'd probably just CGI on plate armour anyway. [/QUOTE]
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