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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dead" data-source="post: 2051278" data-attributes="member: 18707">This is the first I've heard of getting a "Will Power save" so I'm guessing you did it behind the screen. But save or no save, such a powerful effect on a PC - that changes his whole character concept and makes him become a puppet of Chaos in order to satisfy the other backstabbing characters - is just unfair to the player. Yes, sometimes players fail their saves and get charmed by that vampire (or whatever) and turn against their fellow PCs but this is done in collaboration with the DM. Making a save for a player behind your screen on whether or not he utterly and wholly drops his personality and worships Tzentch because the *other players* have been getting their sick pleasure trying to corrupt him is a totally different situation to the normal fail/succeed-on-your-Will-Save-situation. No, my *failed save* was the culmination of many sessions of conspiratorial play against my PC on the part of the other players AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ACCOMODATE THEM WITHOUT A THOUGHT TO WHAT MY WISHES WERE!If this was a simple situation of failing your save and being driven insane, then, yes, of course I'd rise to the challenge. For example, if the PCs entered a chamber and viewed some despicable horror and everyone had to make Will saves or suffer some insanity (depression, homocidal mania, etc.) then this would be different. Why? Because the adversary here is the mutual enemy (the NPC villain or monster) and the newly insane player happily takes on the role of being insane/charmed/etc. because he knows it is only short term and his fellow players will do everything in their power to get him out of the fix. Who was the adversary in my case? The other players! Did the other players try to save me from my altered state? Of course not! They induced the divinly powerful charm that ensorcelled me! They got what they wanted! It was only after I complained so much that you reluctantly let me return to "normal". But my character isn't wholly normal --  he is forever scared from the event. He hates Chaos so much and his very mind, body and soul was violated (spiritually raped) by it!You spell "Campaign" like so. Not Chamaign.Or do you mean "Champagne"? That beverage that goes so well with your cooking!!!!!!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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