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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lalato" data-source="post: 1336564" data-attributes="member: 9171">Just so you guys know.  My DM borders on Killer DM territory.  He doesn't believe in holding back anything when creating his combat encounters.  At the same time he is also very much into character development.  It's a bit of an odd combination.There have been several times that the party has been nearly TPKed or TPKed because the DM doesn't scale things back at all for the newbies.One other oddity of my DM...  he encourages newbies to develop their characters and feats without combat in mind.  In other words he encourages characters to take less than combat optimal feats.  However, whenever we encounter the BBEG or his henchmen, they are always combat optimized.  Rarely do we see an NPC bad guy that isn't built to kill.Oh yeah... the reason we're playing 8th level characters is because our 5th level characters were TPKed, and the 8th level characters were sent to investigate.  That's why it's just a mini-game.  Once the investigation is over, we're done with the campaign.  Next we're moving to HeroQuest to try that system out.Anyway, here are the things the 8th level group has faced so far...A CR13 incorporeal, level draining, undead bad guy that came upon us in our sleep...  and the DM ruled that two characters, a greenbond and a witch (we're playing Arcana Unearthed) could not be awakened by the combat because they both rolled "1" on their listen checks.  If it weren't for the AU Hero Point mechanic, we would have all been dead pretty quickly... but now we're all out of Hero Points so that's not a viable tactic anymore.What do we face next in our investigation of our former party's death?  A CR12 dragon that making lunch meat out of us, until the greenbond got lucky with a Bind with Plants spell.  The Dragon only need to roll a 4 or higher to make his save, lucky for us he rolled a 2.  Had the dragon made that save, we would have all died.Now don't get me wrong...  I'm a big proponent of what the DM says is Law.  I'm willing to live under certain rules.  However, people may learn from their mistakes... that's true.  People also learn from their mentors.  And I'd rather a mentor show me how to do it right the first time, than me make a mistake that costs someone their life.--sam</blockquote>

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