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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1336963" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>I had the same issue with my DM a few years ago. Basically, I and another player knew the rules extremely well, while a third player, great at character building, had a much looser grasp of the rules and of tactics. We kept reminding her that if she cast the spell while standing next to the dragon it'd get an AoO, and if she moved back 20 feet to cast it she'd also suffer an AoO. If we were fighting spectres and she kept busting out with the sleep spell, we might remind her that magic missile would definitely hit immaterial creatures, whereas sleep wouldn't affect the undead. It drove our DM crazy, and I think it embarrassed the player.</p><p> </p><p>We resolved it by giving advice duties to the DM, for the most part. Before she did something that was rules-stupid (such as incurring an AoO), he'd redescribe the scene to her: "If you cast the spell this close to the dragon, he might be able to take a swipe at you, but you can take a step back and probably cast it safely," he'd say. Or, "That 10 on a knowledge: arcana check is good enough; you know that sleep spells traditionally don't work on ghostlike creatures, but magic missiles almost always hit them."</p><p> </p><p>And then we could shout tactical advice in-character. "Do that sphere-thingy on the big guy!" we'd shout, if we wanted her to cast an Otiluke's Resilient Sphere on the nasty tank fighter. We'd ask the DM for permission if we wanted to say something to her or another PC when it wasn't our turn, and in any case we'd keep the comments fairly short.</p><p> </p><p>If both sides are pretty relaxed about it, and keep everyone's fun as the primary goal, you should be able to resolve the problem.</p><p> </p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1336963, member: 259"] I had the same issue with my DM a few years ago. Basically, I and another player knew the rules extremely well, while a third player, great at character building, had a much looser grasp of the rules and of tactics. We kept reminding her that if she cast the spell while standing next to the dragon it'd get an AoO, and if she moved back 20 feet to cast it she'd also suffer an AoO. If we were fighting spectres and she kept busting out with the sleep spell, we might remind her that magic missile would definitely hit immaterial creatures, whereas sleep wouldn't affect the undead. It drove our DM crazy, and I think it embarrassed the player. We resolved it by giving advice duties to the DM, for the most part. Before she did something that was rules-stupid (such as incurring an AoO), he'd redescribe the scene to her: "If you cast the spell this close to the dragon, he might be able to take a swipe at you, but you can take a step back and probably cast it safely," he'd say. Or, "That 10 on a knowledge: arcana check is good enough; you know that sleep spells traditionally don't work on ghostlike creatures, but magic missiles almost always hit them." And then we could shout tactical advice in-character. "Do that sphere-thingy on the big guy!" we'd shout, if we wanted her to cast an Otiluke's Resilient Sphere on the nasty tank fighter. We'd ask the DM for permission if we wanted to say something to her or another PC when it wasn't our turn, and in any case we'd keep the comments fairly short. If both sides are pretty relaxed about it, and keep everyone's fun as the primary goal, you should be able to resolve the problem. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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