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The DM is Not a Player; and Hot Topic is Not Punk Rock
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<blockquote data-quote="bulletmeat" data-source="post: 8153948" data-attributes="member: 17058"><p>Don't have time to read the whole thread, but a DM in D&D is not a player. The DM is a presenter. They can be a story teller just like the players are story tellers, but the DMs, for lack of a better term, have more power than the players in the story:</p><p></p><p>DM: there is a 100' chasm in front of you.</p><p>Player: I fly across the chasm.</p><p>DM: do you have a magic item or equipment that let's you fly across?</p><p>Player: No, I can just fly.</p><p>DM: No, you can't.</p><p></p><p>The problem with the power role is a DM who does not use this power responsibly. Everyone does it, it's an easy mistake to make. Games have been created to mediate/change this but in D&D that's kind of how it's run.</p><p>If a player says they can do something for no reason a DM has the right to say no. If a player rolls a nat 20 for his persuasion to have the dragon to give up all it's gold the DM has an ability to say, "that choice is not possible so that roll does not work." Player's are equal, DM in D&D is not.</p><p></p><p>And as much as I can appreciate the work Dave & Gygax did to create this game I don't care what they said. At least in the four corners of the US with the frew nationalities I have played this game with (US, Vietnamese, British, Ethiopian) this was the silent agreement that allowed them to enjoy the game when I DM'd correctly (or at least learn it wasn't satanic).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bulletmeat, post: 8153948, member: 17058"] Don't have time to read the whole thread, but a DM in D&D is not a player. The DM is a presenter. They can be a story teller just like the players are story tellers, but the DMs, for lack of a better term, have more power than the players in the story: DM: there is a 100' chasm in front of you. Player: I fly across the chasm. DM: do you have a magic item or equipment that let's you fly across? Player: No, I can just fly. DM: No, you can't. The problem with the power role is a DM who does not use this power responsibly. Everyone does it, it's an easy mistake to make. Games have been created to mediate/change this but in D&D that's kind of how it's run. If a player says they can do something for no reason a DM has the right to say no. If a player rolls a nat 20 for his persuasion to have the dragon to give up all it's gold the DM has an ability to say, "that choice is not possible so that roll does not work." Player's are equal, DM in D&D is not. And as much as I can appreciate the work Dave & Gygax did to create this game I don't care what they said. At least in the four corners of the US with the frew nationalities I have played this game with (US, Vietnamese, British, Ethiopian) this was the silent agreement that allowed them to enjoy the game when I DM'd correctly (or at least learn it wasn't satanic). [/QUOTE]
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