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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8853612" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>It's an open question as to whether they actually can, but we do know that the number of situations in which their algorithm can appear to reason is much greater than those of a computer. </p><p></p><p>Personally I am not a believer in general intelligence. I believe humans have a collection of sophisticated and specialized algorithms that work together to reason in a limited set of contexts. Computers can actually do math, but humans can't do math (actually they can, but only in a very small set of contexts). To "do math" a human has to hijack some of its other algorithms that have to do with symbol manipulation and painfully and inefficiently work out the answer. There are obvious huge gaps in human reasoning ability though, one of the more famous being that humans can't and I mean can't do statistics and as such have a really hard time even learning from statistics because the correct answer that humans get from statistical math by painstaking symbol manipulation runs counter to their built-in algorithms. They can't intuit when statistics are right or wrong, they can be easily deceived by them (including deceiving themselves), and in general they act like they are dumb with respect to them. Which, they probably are. </p><p></p><p>And on the other hand, humans are pretty darn efficient at walking, learning language, hitting things with a club, conceptualizing a spatial environment and throwing things. We don't know how they do it, but we do know that for the most part they aren't doing it in the high inefficient ways that we teach computers to do it by leveraging that they can do math and making them work out the physics.</p><p></p><p>There are definitely things that humans do that are intelligent that we can't teach computers to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8853612, member: 4937"] It's an open question as to whether they actually can, but we do know that the number of situations in which their algorithm can appear to reason is much greater than those of a computer. Personally I am not a believer in general intelligence. I believe humans have a collection of sophisticated and specialized algorithms that work together to reason in a limited set of contexts. Computers can actually do math, but humans can't do math (actually they can, but only in a very small set of contexts). To "do math" a human has to hijack some of its other algorithms that have to do with symbol manipulation and painfully and inefficiently work out the answer. There are obvious huge gaps in human reasoning ability though, one of the more famous being that humans can't and I mean can't do statistics and as such have a really hard time even learning from statistics because the correct answer that humans get from statistical math by painstaking symbol manipulation runs counter to their built-in algorithms. They can't intuit when statistics are right or wrong, they can be easily deceived by them (including deceiving themselves), and in general they act like they are dumb with respect to them. Which, they probably are. And on the other hand, humans are pretty darn efficient at walking, learning language, hitting things with a club, conceptualizing a spatial environment and throwing things. We don't know how they do it, but we do know that for the most part they aren't doing it in the high inefficient ways that we teach computers to do it by leveraging that they can do math and making them work out the physics. There are definitely things that humans do that are intelligent that we can't teach computers to do. [/QUOTE]
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