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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 8856414" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>While I do think that there is a certain degree of "you should know from D&D," I'm not sure if OSR is really looking at WotC era D&D for that, especially not at 5e D&D to fill in those gaps. The OSR community prizes a lot of old sourcebooks from TSR era, particularly B/X and 1e D&D. These tend to be lighter in hard lore. Moreover, there is also a lot of OSR, particularly of the more philosophical OSR branch, that is ditching D&D style lore in favor of their own. Necrotic Gnome preserves the skeleton of old school D&D lore for OSE, but Necrotic Gnome's house setting <em>Dolmenwood</em> basically ditches quite a bit of it in favor of more fairy tale inspired fantasy.</p><p></p><p>I also think we would be remiss if we thought that this is solely a matter of "you should know from D&D," as opposed to "you should know from other media." I don't think most people, for example, are bringing their understanding of orcs from D&D, but, rather, from <em>Lord of the Rings </em>or even<em> World of Warcraft</em> and<em> Elder Scrolls.</em> I don't think that my partner, for example, can tell you one thing about D&D lore. They don't care. But I don't think that they would have an issue understanding a dragon or orc that popped up in D&D or imagining how they may be used in the game. I also knew what orcs were before I ever heard of D&D in high school because I had been playing <em>Warcraft: Orcs & Humans</em> and <em>Warcraft 2: Tides of Darkness</em> and also reading <em>The Hobbit</em> and <em>Lord of the Rings</em>. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 8856414, member: 5142"] While I do think that there is a certain degree of "you should know from D&D," I'm not sure if OSR is really looking at WotC era D&D for that, especially not at 5e D&D to fill in those gaps. The OSR community prizes a lot of old sourcebooks from TSR era, particularly B/X and 1e D&D. These tend to be lighter in hard lore. Moreover, there is also a lot of OSR, particularly of the more philosophical OSR branch, that is ditching D&D style lore in favor of their own. Necrotic Gnome preserves the skeleton of old school D&D lore for OSE, but Necrotic Gnome's house setting [I]Dolmenwood[/I] basically ditches quite a bit of it in favor of more fairy tale inspired fantasy. I also think we would be remiss if we thought that this is solely a matter of "you should know from D&D," as opposed to "you should know from other media." I don't think most people, for example, are bringing their understanding of orcs from D&D, but, rather, from [I]Lord of the Rings [/I]or even[I] World of Warcraft[/I] and[I] Elder Scrolls.[/I] I don't think that my partner, for example, can tell you one thing about D&D lore. They don't care. But I don't think that they would have an issue understanding a dragon or orc that popped up in D&D or imagining how they may be used in the game. I also knew what orcs were before I ever heard of D&D in high school because I had been playing [I]Warcraft: Orcs & Humans[/I] and [I]Warcraft 2: Tides of Darkness[/I] and also reading [I]The Hobbit[/I] and [I]Lord of the Rings[/I]. Fair. [/QUOTE]
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