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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5963071" data-attributes="member: 87792">The big question here is why the wizard has given his sidekick the hammer of disintegration.&nbsp; Instead the cleric laughs at the door - and at wounds.&nbsp; And they cut the fighter out of the loot.Fighters need to be more than magic item mules unless they can make their own magic items.This incidently is why I despise the implementation of Gygaxo-Vancian casting present in Dungeons and Dragons.&nbsp; You're a 15th level wizard with an Int of 26 (including a +6 item) and specialised in conjuration.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not an implausible setup. You have:3 8th level spells4 7th level spells5 6th level spells6 5th level spellsand 7 spells of each lower level (ignoring cantrips).You have fourty six spells prepared per day.&nbsp; So please.&nbsp; Tell me how your high level wizard is going to run out of spells.&nbsp; More to the point tell me how he's going to run out of spells before the fighter runs out of hit points unless the fighter starts mainlining wands of Cure Light Wounds.&nbsp; (In 13th age as a wizard you get just less than 4+level spells, of which one will be an at will attack - and the highest possible level is 10th)The running out of magic limitation on high level Vancian wizards is very much dependent on the implementation.&nbsp; And incredibly rare at high levels in D&amp;D, especially 3.X.Pre-Unearthed Arcana, the meatshield could be replaced by hirelings and attack dogs.&nbsp; Weapon Specialisation made the fighter into a mincing machine, however.&nbsp; And three times the hp?&nbsp; d10 avg = 5.5.&nbsp; d4 avg=2.5</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5963071, member: 87792"] The big question here is why the wizard has given his sidekick the hammer of disintegration. Instead the cleric laughs at the door - and at wounds. And they cut the fighter out of the loot. Fighters need to be more than magic item mules unless they can make their own magic items. This incidently is why I despise the implementation of Gygaxo-Vancian casting present in Dungeons and Dragons. You're a 15th level wizard with an Int of 26 (including a +6 item) and specialised in conjuration. Not an implausible setup. You have: 3 8th level spells 4 7th level spells 5 6th level spells 6 5th level spells and 7 spells of each lower level (ignoring cantrips). You have [I]fourty six spells prepared per day[/I]. So please. Tell me how your high level wizard is going to run out of spells. More to the point tell me how he's going to run out of spells before the fighter runs out of hit points unless the fighter starts mainlining wands of Cure Light Wounds. (In 13th age as a wizard you get just less than 4+level spells, of which one will be an at will attack - and the highest possible level is 10th) The running out of magic limitation on high level Vancian wizards is very much dependent on the implementation. And incredibly rare at high levels in D&D, especially 3.X. Pre-Unearthed Arcana, the meatshield could be replaced by hirelings and attack dogs. Weapon Specialisation made the fighter into a mincing machine, however. And three times the hp? d10 avg = 5.5. d4 avg=2.5 [/QUOTE]

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