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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5968858" data-attributes="member: 48965">This is wrong as I've demonstrated earlier. They provide both the how and why wizards can manipulate magic.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I&quot;M NOT JUSTIFYING MAGIC... I've said this numerous times and you keep ignoring it. I AM JUSTFYING THE HOW AND WHY A WIZARD CAN MANIPULATE MAGIC. Just as I am asking for a how and why the fighter is able to do these things as they are clearly outside the base norm of the D&amp;D world... this reason should also justify why any schmoe can't do what the fighter does... otherwise tons of people have will and courage... they should be slicing mountains too.&nbsp;&nbsp;You are ignoring the rules for memeorization of a spell, learning a spell, etc. These all create a paradigm to define how a wizard is able to manipulate magic. That is what I am asking for with the fighter. The same way a Cleric has spells but a different explanation (paradigm) of how and why he can in turn use magic.&nbsp;&nbsp;No, again this is trying to define the power... I want the paradigm through which the power can be used. Why can't any person do what the fighter does then??&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm not asking for an explanation of heroism and courage. I'm asking, in the game, what are the processes for using it??&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm not. the Wizard cannot cast a spell he does not know... the wizard cannot cast a spell he does not have memorized... the wizard eventually cannot cast anymore spells... these are just some of rules that define why and how a wizard can manipulate magic... The fighter just does basically says... he should be able to do anything all the time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5968858, member: 48965"] This is wrong as I've demonstrated earlier. They provide both the how and why wizards can manipulate magic. I"M NOT JUSTIFYING MAGIC... I've said this numerous times and you keep ignoring it. I AM JUSTFYING THE HOW AND WHY A WIZARD CAN MANIPULATE MAGIC. Just as I am asking for a how and why the fighter is able to do these things as they are clearly outside the base norm of the D&D world... this reason should also justify why any schmoe can't do what the fighter does... otherwise tons of people have will and courage... they should be slicing mountains too. You are ignoring the rules for memeorization of a spell, learning a spell, etc. These all create a paradigm to define how a wizard is able to manipulate magic. That is what I am asking for with the fighter. The same way a Cleric has spells but a different explanation (paradigm) of how and why he can in turn use magic. No, again this is trying to define the power... I want the paradigm through which the power can be used. Why can't any person do what the fighter does then?? I'm not asking for an explanation of heroism and courage. I'm asking, in the game, what are the processes for using it?? I'm not. the Wizard cannot cast a spell he does not know... the wizard cannot cast a spell he does not have memorized... the wizard eventually cannot cast anymore spells... these are just some of rules that define why and how a wizard can manipulate magic... The fighter just does basically says... he should be able to do anything all the time. [/QUOTE]

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