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<blockquote data-quote="Underman" data-source="post: 5968964" data-attributes="member: 6696705">I know why the mage can cast a fireball spell once per day, he has the spell recipe for it, he forgets the recipe after casting, and needs a full rest to restore it. The mage may not understand why this works, he just know that it does. That's an external process, what the mage thinks about the process is irrelevant.Force of will and courage is internal to the fighter. It's not a mysterious external process. So I don't know why the fighter can, through force of will and courage, leap 500 feet once per day. I don't know why he can't use that force of will and courage to do something else equally impressive once per day (which would be against the rules).It's like the fighter wants ssoooooooooo badly to jump every day once a day and that it's. Does he have a sort of points pool that can be applied to various things he wants to do soooooooooo badly, or is it just for jumping?I hope it isn't a &quot;polite fiction&quot; that unconciously and tragically&nbsp; prevents me from reconciling the plausibility of jumping over mountains&nbsp; due to magic (with its rituals and boundaries and pseudo-logic) vs a&nbsp; prescribed once daily burst of courage and will (just because due to a&nbsp; mythic dream logic that pops into the adventure for just that one&nbsp; instance and then mythic dream logic is conspicuously absent the rest of&nbsp; the time with people behaving in perfectly normal non-mythic ways).&nbsp; If so, I'm perfectly content to be on a different planet than certain other people.Because I can get into the mind of the mage who wields great magicks using a sort of esoteric rulebook. I cannot, however, get into the mind of the fighter who wants sooooooooo badly to jump 500 feet every day and nothing else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Underman, post: 5968964, member: 6696705"] I know why the mage can cast a fireball spell once per day, he has the spell recipe for it, he forgets the recipe after casting, and needs a full rest to restore it. The mage may not understand why this works, he just know that it does. That's an external process, what the mage thinks about the process is irrelevant. Force of will and courage is internal to the fighter. It's not a mysterious external process. So I don't know why the fighter can, through force of will and courage, leap 500 feet once per day. I don't know why he can't use that force of will and courage to do something else equally impressive once per day (which would be against the rules). It's like the fighter wants ssoooooooooo badly to jump every day once a day and that it's. Does he have a sort of points pool that can be applied to various things he wants to do soooooooooo badly, or is it just for jumping? I hope it isn't a "polite fiction" that unconciously and tragically prevents me from reconciling the plausibility of jumping over mountains due to magic (with its rituals and boundaries and pseudo-logic) vs a prescribed once daily burst of courage and will (just because due to a mythic dream logic that pops into the adventure for just that one instance and then mythic dream logic is conspicuously absent the rest of the time with people behaving in perfectly normal non-mythic ways). If so, I'm perfectly content to be on a different planet than certain other people. Because I can get into the mind of the mage who wields great magicks using a sort of esoteric rulebook. I cannot, however, get into the mind of the fighter who wants sooooooooo badly to jump 500 feet every day and nothing else. [/QUOTE]

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