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<blockquote data-quote="Thondor" data-source="post: 3777561" data-attributes="member: 31955"><p>Clearly for reference we should look at the Barbarian and the Dragon Disciple Prestige class. I don't have the PHBII so I can't reference the Dragon Shaman</p><p></p><p>First a character must be a 5th level character to take the Dragon Disciple (with at least one Bard or Sorcerer level) hmmm. We should keep in mind that the Dragon Disciple only gets med BAB</p><p></p><p>Note: I have no Idea what you mean by the Spell-like abilities entry.</p><p>They both use d12 for HP so we could stick with that.</p><p>However if you want them to be able to wear heavy Armours you should probably knock the HP down to d10</p><p></p><p><strong>Comparing Rage to Dragon Form</strong></p><p>Rage lasts on round longer</p><p></p><p>1st</p><p>Rage - +4 Str, +4 Con, +2 morale bonus, -2 AC</p><p>Dragon Form - +4 Str, +4 Con, +2 AC, -4 dex , bite and claw, Frightful presence, Breath attacK</p><p></p><p>This is way to much. And really gaining all of these benefits only when in Dragon Form really sucks. </p><p>I suggest to keep it simple we keep the advancement of # of Dragon forms tied directly to the Barbarian rage advancement ie. +1/day at 4th, 8th, 12th, 16th,20th. as well as having it last the same length (3+Con bonus).</p><p></p><p>If you disassociate the bite/claw and the Frightful Presence and Breath attack from the Dragon form then we can have a little more fun.</p><p></p><p>Dragon Knight abilities</p><p>1st Dragon Form 1/day (+4 str, +4 Con, +2 AC -4Dex), Dragon totem</p><p>2nd Bite 1d6, 2Claws 1d4 (at will)</p><p>3rd Breath Weapon (1d8), Charm </p><p>4th Dragon Form 2/day</p><p>5th Bite and Claws magic,</p><p>6th Breath Weapon (2d8)</p><p>7th Wings (1/day) </p><p>8th DragonForm 3/day</p><p>9th Breath Weapon (3d8)</p><p>10th Wings (2/day)</p><p>11th Greater DragonForm </p><p>12th DragonForm 4/day, Breath Weapon (4d8)</p><p>13th Wings (3/day)</p><p>14th Summon Dragon</p><p>15th Breath Weapon (5d8)</p><p>16th DragonForm 5/day, Wings (4/day)</p><p>17th Tireless DragonForm</p><p>18th Breath Weapon (6d8)</p><p>19th Wings (5/day)</p><p>20th Dragonform 6/day, Mighty DragonForm</p><p></p><p></p><p>Breath Weapon: Once per day. Damage increases every 3 levels. 3rd, 6th, 9th etc</p><p></p><p>Wings: the Dragon knight sprouts Dragonlike wings and may fly 1 round per level +Cha modifier, with a manuverability of awerage and a fly speed of 30ft. (the DragonKnight may have both Dragon form and wings active at the same time) </p><p></p><p>Greater DragonForm: Bonus when in Dragon Form rises to +6 Str and +4AC, Con bonus remains +2, dex penalty falls to -2.</p><p></p><p>Mighty Dragonform: Bonus when in Dragon Form rises to +8 Str, +6AC, Con +4, dex penalty remains to -2.</p><p></p><p>Bite and Claws magic: At 5th level are considered magic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Notes: I would probably stick this class with medium armor and d10Hp they seem pretty tough as written. If you want to add blindsense or any other features at smaller gain levels. Definetly add this restriction. Also consider only having one good save.</p><p></p><p></p><p>edit- Forgot to add Frightful presence. It depends on how you want it to work. if you want the DragonKnight to be able to use it at will then . . . probably level 7. If only when in DragonForm then 5th would probably work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thondor, post: 3777561, member: 31955"] Clearly for reference we should look at the Barbarian and the Dragon Disciple Prestige class. I don't have the PHBII so I can't reference the Dragon Shaman First a character must be a 5th level character to take the Dragon Disciple (with at least one Bard or Sorcerer level) hmmm. We should keep in mind that the Dragon Disciple only gets med BAB Note: I have no Idea what you mean by the Spell-like abilities entry. They both use d12 for HP so we could stick with that. However if you want them to be able to wear heavy Armours you should probably knock the HP down to d10 [B]Comparing Rage to Dragon Form[/B] Rage lasts on round longer 1st Rage - +4 Str, +4 Con, +2 morale bonus, -2 AC Dragon Form - +4 Str, +4 Con, +2 AC, -4 dex , bite and claw, Frightful presence, Breath attacK This is way to much. And really gaining all of these benefits only when in Dragon Form really sucks. I suggest to keep it simple we keep the advancement of # of Dragon forms tied directly to the Barbarian rage advancement ie. +1/day at 4th, 8th, 12th, 16th,20th. as well as having it last the same length (3+Con bonus). If you disassociate the bite/claw and the Frightful Presence and Breath attack from the Dragon form then we can have a little more fun. Dragon Knight abilities 1st Dragon Form 1/day (+4 str, +4 Con, +2 AC -4Dex), Dragon totem 2nd Bite 1d6, 2Claws 1d4 (at will) 3rd Breath Weapon (1d8), Charm 4th Dragon Form 2/day 5th Bite and Claws magic, 6th Breath Weapon (2d8) 7th Wings (1/day) 8th DragonForm 3/day 9th Breath Weapon (3d8) 10th Wings (2/day) 11th Greater DragonForm 12th DragonForm 4/day, Breath Weapon (4d8) 13th Wings (3/day) 14th Summon Dragon 15th Breath Weapon (5d8) 16th DragonForm 5/day, Wings (4/day) 17th Tireless DragonForm 18th Breath Weapon (6d8) 19th Wings (5/day) 20th Dragonform 6/day, Mighty DragonForm Breath Weapon: Once per day. Damage increases every 3 levels. 3rd, 6th, 9th etc Wings: the Dragon knight sprouts Dragonlike wings and may fly 1 round per level +Cha modifier, with a manuverability of awerage and a fly speed of 30ft. (the DragonKnight may have both Dragon form and wings active at the same time) Greater DragonForm: Bonus when in Dragon Form rises to +6 Str and +4AC, Con bonus remains +2, dex penalty falls to -2. Mighty Dragonform: Bonus when in Dragon Form rises to +8 Str, +6AC, Con +4, dex penalty remains to -2. Bite and Claws magic: At 5th level are considered magic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. Notes: I would probably stick this class with medium armor and d10Hp they seem pretty tough as written. If you want to add blindsense or any other features at smaller gain levels. Definetly add this restriction. Also consider only having one good save. edit- Forgot to add Frightful presence. It depends on how you want it to work. if you want the DragonKnight to be able to use it at will then . . . probably level 7. If only when in DragonForm then 5th would probably work. [/QUOTE]
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