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<blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9237558" data-attributes="member: 7035894"><p>I don't know what "sea lion level harassment is" but it seems insulting. I don't think I'm doing it, whatever it is. And I don't appreciate the insinuation.</p><p></p><p>It is not "harassing" to express skepticism of a claim that is not well sourced, particularly when that claim is derogatory, and particularly when there is a history of people making hurtful and misogynist claims about an individual. To me, the story seems fanciful. It seems like the kind of thing that could be just a rumour, or it could be something that was originally said in jest, or it could be an exaggeration. It's impossible to say based on scant evidence, and as it is hurtful I am choosing to ignore it as gossip.</p><p></p><p>Asking for evidence beyond hearsay is not shutting down conversation. Though I suspect accusing people of being "sea lions," whatever that means, might be an attempt to do so.</p><p></p><p>I'm not some huge Lorraine Williams fan. She sounds like she was often difficult to work with, I think she made or maintained some bad business decisions at TSR, and I question her judgment regarding her interactions with the fan community and regarding her family's Buck Rogers IP. But she's not some cartoonish supervillain, and I think it is evidently clear that she was better at running a business than Gygax and the Blumes (a VERY low bar). Again, I think it is notable that ex-employees have expressed a preference for working under her.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clint_L, post: 9237558, member: 7035894"] I don't know what "sea lion level harassment is" but it seems insulting. I don't think I'm doing it, whatever it is. And I don't appreciate the insinuation. It is not "harassing" to express skepticism of a claim that is not well sourced, particularly when that claim is derogatory, and particularly when there is a history of people making hurtful and misogynist claims about an individual. To me, the story seems fanciful. It seems like the kind of thing that could be just a rumour, or it could be something that was originally said in jest, or it could be an exaggeration. It's impossible to say based on scant evidence, and as it is hurtful I am choosing to ignore it as gossip. Asking for evidence beyond hearsay is not shutting down conversation. Though I suspect accusing people of being "sea lions," whatever that means, might be an attempt to do so. I'm not some huge Lorraine Williams fan. She sounds like she was often difficult to work with, I think she made or maintained some bad business decisions at TSR, and I question her judgment regarding her interactions with the fan community and regarding her family's Buck Rogers IP. But she's not some cartoonish supervillain, and I think it is evidently clear that she was better at running a business than Gygax and the Blumes (a VERY low bar). Again, I think it is notable that ex-employees have expressed a preference for working under her. [/QUOTE]
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