Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9238775" data-attributes="member: 7023840">Unfortunately, I have been traveling internationally and am still under the weather, but I'm with it enough to notice this.I can't help but remember <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/lorraine-williams-is-it-time-for-a-reevaluation.683454/" target="_blank">this thread</a>. Now, looking back at it, I can see that you participated in it, from a certain point of view, including repeating things that were questionable. Some of which I addressed in two very lengthy posts. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/lorraine-williams-is-it-time-for-a-reevaluation.683454/post-8434844" target="_blank">Here </a>and <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/lorraine-williams-is-it-time-for-a-reevaluation.683454/post-8434887" target="_blank">here</a>.Now, of course, I am a little disturbed to see that you are misstating my argument by saying that I am calling her a hero. Which is rather interesting, given that you seem to also be claiming to be demanding accuracy. I think anyone who actually looks as that thread, and the links I just provided, can see that you are badly misstating what I said ... moreover, it will be fairly obvious that you are one of the individuals that seem to require holding Lorraine out for special contempt.This is what people are pushing back against. Look, I think everyone here knows that I love Gygax as much as (if not more than) the next person. But I am also perfectly able to recognize that he lost his fastball when he went out to Hollywood (although the women and drugs may have played a role in that). I can balance my love for what he did for the hobby for a decade with the many unpleasant things he did as well- including running TSR into the ground, and the terrible and rampant self-dealing he was involved in (along with the Blumes) that has been extensively documented.And, in the same way, I can acknowledge that Lorraine did good things for TSR, as well as bad things- without resorting to the many terrible and misogynistic stories that people passed around as gospel, or, even worse, accepting as truth the many lies that were passed around about her. It's easy enough to view the true facts of the situation and view them on the merits without succumbing to the "good ol' boys" stories of the 80s and 90s about Lorraine, most of which don't stand up under scrutiny, and many of them look quite a bit different today.More to the point- all of those "HA HA FAT WOMAN BAD!" stories that gamers loved to employ back in the day just don't seem so great, do they?ETA- I would like to add the final note that I have been reiterating. We have repeatedly heard from the few women that worked at TSR that it was not a welcoming environment for women. Is it any surprise that those same people who were not welcoming to their co-workers would be less-than-charitable about a female boss?</blockquote>

Verification