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the druid PHB II shaphshifter , what am I missing ???
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<blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 3084283" data-attributes="member: 9501"><p>I'm not sure if shapeshift is better or worse but a few things interest aside from the fact its much simpler to play</p><p></p><p>Firstly I like the fact it starts at level 1 rather than waiting until 5th. Also it is use at will which is considerably better than wildshape and being a swift action rather than a standard is good too</p><p></p><p>You also get a greater magic weapon effect on 'each' natural attack for free which is worth up to 3 third level spells (for 3 nat weapons) and is hard to pull off as a nornal druid without taking the natural spell feat. I also like the various free feats you get such as flyby attack, mobility, improved crit, improved overrun and great cleave</p><p></p><p>The damage output is generally lower and you need to start with better physical stats but the reach is about the same - large animals including bear only get 5' reach. The natural armour seems much better can can still be boosted by barkskin as its an improvement not a bonus</p><p></p><p>One of the biggest losses I would say is the lack of improved grab, pounce, rake etc but I'm not sorry to see these go for a druid to be honest. I have just played a druid up to 10th and to be honest the grappling, although the rules made sense eventually, was a mess. Also having to have a list of monster forms pre stated at each level is a pain. Working out grapple bonus's and attack bonus's on the fly is way to complicated mid combat</p><p></p><p>You can still have an animal 'companion'. Just go and find/buy/train one, possibly even better than your normal druid level would allow. Sure it loses a few bonus's but with DM approval you could maybe have advanced versions instead</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prism, post: 3084283, member: 9501"] I'm not sure if shapeshift is better or worse but a few things interest aside from the fact its much simpler to play Firstly I like the fact it starts at level 1 rather than waiting until 5th. Also it is use at will which is considerably better than wildshape and being a swift action rather than a standard is good too You also get a greater magic weapon effect on 'each' natural attack for free which is worth up to 3 third level spells (for 3 nat weapons) and is hard to pull off as a nornal druid without taking the natural spell feat. I also like the various free feats you get such as flyby attack, mobility, improved crit, improved overrun and great cleave The damage output is generally lower and you need to start with better physical stats but the reach is about the same - large animals including bear only get 5' reach. The natural armour seems much better can can still be boosted by barkskin as its an improvement not a bonus One of the biggest losses I would say is the lack of improved grab, pounce, rake etc but I'm not sorry to see these go for a druid to be honest. I have just played a druid up to 10th and to be honest the grappling, although the rules made sense eventually, was a mess. Also having to have a list of monster forms pre stated at each level is a pain. Working out grapple bonus's and attack bonus's on the fly is way to complicated mid combat You can still have an animal 'companion'. Just go and find/buy/train one, possibly even better than your normal druid level would allow. Sure it loses a few bonus's but with DM approval you could maybe have advanced versions instead [/QUOTE]
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