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The Dual Wielding Ranger: How Aragorn, Drizzt, and Dual-Wielding Led to the Ranger's Loss of Identity
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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8243549" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>Ok. I will buy this, but it is a niche that came about exactly the same time as the most famous Ranger in D&D (and arguably fantasy history) was taking the world by storm. I get that it is a niche ability and purposely in the book, but it is not one that makes a lot of sense without Drizzt, because no other example of inspiration for a Ranger does this. Aragorn doesn't do it. The only other Ranger in D&D novels at the time is Riverwind, a distant, distant second in popularity to Drizzt and he does not do it. The French origins of the word "Ranger" are based on a mounted police character where horsemanship would make more sense as a niche ability (more akin to Texas Rangers). Further in the entire D&D lore, no other character of any class that I know of who was puiblished in a rulebook by 1988 dual wields swords except for Drizzt, and he happens to bee a Ranger.</p><p></p><p>Why dual wielding if not Drizzt? Not why a niche ability, which I get, but why this specific niche ability, where did this idea come from?</p><p></p><p>Further regardless of the designers, the fanboys certainly associated it with Ranger's because of Drizzt (who was more popular than D&D itself). I actually talked about this with friends during the timeframe. Rangers dual wield swords - look at Drizzt.</p><p></p><p>Salvatore is actually credited as an author in FR6 Hall of Heroes which is the first 2E suplement, published in 1989, so he absolutely was involved with 2E early in development.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8243549, member: 6855259"] Ok. I will buy this, but it is a niche that came about exactly the same time as the most famous Ranger in D&D (and arguably fantasy history) was taking the world by storm. I get that it is a niche ability and purposely in the book, but it is not one that makes a lot of sense without Drizzt, because no other example of inspiration for a Ranger does this. Aragorn doesn't do it. The only other Ranger in D&D novels at the time is Riverwind, a distant, distant second in popularity to Drizzt and he does not do it. The French origins of the word "Ranger" are based on a mounted police character where horsemanship would make more sense as a niche ability (more akin to Texas Rangers). Further in the entire D&D lore, no other character of any class that I know of who was puiblished in a rulebook by 1988 dual wields swords except for Drizzt, and he happens to bee a Ranger. Why dual wielding if not Drizzt? Not why a niche ability, which I get, but why this specific niche ability, where did this idea come from? Further regardless of the designers, the fanboys certainly associated it with Ranger's because of Drizzt (who was more popular than D&D itself). I actually talked about this with friends during the timeframe. Rangers dual wield swords - look at Drizzt. Salvatore is actually credited as an author in FR6 Hall of Heroes which is the first 2E suplement, published in 1989, so he absolutely was involved with 2E early in development. [/QUOTE]
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