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The Dual Wielding Ranger: How Aragorn, Drizzt, and Dual-Wielding Led to the Ranger's Loss of Identity
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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8254399" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>They just aren’t very similar. Their powers do substantially different things. You could make a class with some of the rogue powers and some of the ranger powers (in fact, that’s exactly how the hybrid class system worked), but it wouldn’t really play like a rogue or a ranger. It would play like a different class that had some similarities to both, but was its own thing.</p><p></p><p>See, I think a huge part of the disconnect people had with 4e was that 4e classes are just a different thing than classes in other editions of D&D are. People are used to thinking of classes as character archetypes, which the mechanics are designed to express. 4e classes are first and foremost sets of powers, which fill a combat role, by way of one or two power sources. In very basic terms, 4e classes are about <em>what you do</em> rather than <em>who you are</em>. Could you combine the narrative elements of rogue and ranger into a new class? Absolutely. But in the 4e design paradigm, that class would have a set of powers that would set it apart from both the ranger and the rogue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8254399, member: 6779196"] They just aren’t very similar. Their powers do substantially different things. You could make a class with some of the rogue powers and some of the ranger powers (in fact, that’s exactly how the hybrid class system worked), but it wouldn’t really play like a rogue or a ranger. It would play like a different class that had some similarities to both, but was its own thing. See, I think a huge part of the disconnect people had with 4e was that 4e classes are just a different thing than classes in other editions of D&D are. People are used to thinking of classes as character archetypes, which the mechanics are designed to express. 4e classes are first and foremost sets of powers, which fill a combat role, by way of one or two power sources. In very basic terms, 4e classes are about [I]what you do[/I] rather than [I]who you are[/I]. Could you combine the narrative elements of rogue and ranger into a new class? Absolutely. But in the 4e design paradigm, that class would have a set of powers that would set it apart from both the ranger and the rogue. [/QUOTE]
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