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<blockquote data-quote="Panda-s1" data-source="post: 7804798" data-attributes="member: 59554"><p>I mean there's the general need to give credit where credit is due, and Arneson has a lot of unpaid credit. I remember the day it was announced he passed away. I was working at a game store at the time, and a year earlier Gygax died and everyone was at least a little sad. When I told my coworker about Arneson passing away he just looked at me and said "Who's that?"</p><p></p><p>There's also the resurgence of D&D in the past 5 years, and that means Gygax's name has been coming up again, even with WotC barely mentioning his name in 5e material. This in turn means he's getting a lot of praise again and the people who know about Arneson's involvement in the creation of D&D are getting upset. IIRC there was that graphic novel from a year or two ago about Gary creating D&D that basically made him out to be this genius and counter backlash against the book's critics was definitely something. </p><p></p><p></p><p>OR MAYBE, just maybe people know that Arneson deserves at least as much praise as Gygax for the creation of D&D. Alternatively, maybe Gygax shouldn't be deified the way he is for creating the roleplaying game genre when he had a ton of help and didn't even come up with idea in the first place.</p><p></p><p>These aren't even comparable scenarios. Between Gygax and Arneson there's a long, well documented history of disagreements and court battles. This isn't people looking at Shakespeare's writing and comparing it to others' hundreds of years after the fact, this is people looking at solid written evidence and the testimonies of living people. I've known about Dave Arneson and what he did for over a decade now, and it's sad to see newer players not even know he has credit for creating Dungeons & Dragons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Panda-s1, post: 7804798, member: 59554"] I mean there's the general need to give credit where credit is due, and Arneson has a lot of unpaid credit. I remember the day it was announced he passed away. I was working at a game store at the time, and a year earlier Gygax died and everyone was at least a little sad. When I told my coworker about Arneson passing away he just looked at me and said "Who's that?" There's also the resurgence of D&D in the past 5 years, and that means Gygax's name has been coming up again, even with WotC barely mentioning his name in 5e material. This in turn means he's getting a lot of praise again and the people who know about Arneson's involvement in the creation of D&D are getting upset. IIRC there was that graphic novel from a year or two ago about Gary creating D&D that basically made him out to be this genius and counter backlash against the book's critics was definitely something. OR MAYBE, just maybe people know that Arneson deserves at least as much praise as Gygax for the creation of D&D. Alternatively, maybe Gygax shouldn't be deified the way he is for creating the roleplaying game genre when he had a ton of help and didn't even come up with idea in the first place. These aren't even comparable scenarios. Between Gygax and Arneson there's a long, well documented history of disagreements and court battles. This isn't people looking at Shakespeare's writing and comparing it to others' hundreds of years after the fact, this is people looking at solid written evidence and the testimonies of living people. I've known about Dave Arneson and what he did for over a decade now, and it's sad to see newer players not even know he has credit for creating Dungeons & Dragons. [/QUOTE]
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