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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6358613" data-attributes="member: 4937">Oh absolutely.&nbsp; I don't think the terms are bad things at all.&nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, the most important contribution of Forge to gaming has been the invention of all this technical language that lets us talk about these sorts of things.&nbsp;&nbsp; In the 'old school' days, we didn't really have the ability to have this conversation, and to the extent we could have, we would have gotten lost in non-clinical language that would have muddied the waters even more than Forge speak.Muddled as this is as we argue over the nuances of failing forward, it's far clearer of a conversation than this would have been in 1985.Well, I think it is in the text but I would be lying to say that I learned it from the text.&nbsp; I didn't understand what the text was trying to say until long after I'd taken the lessons to heart, and then only after that did I understand exactly what Gygax was trying (and often failing) to say.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6358613, member: 4937"] Oh absolutely. I don't think the terms are bad things at all. Indeed, the most important contribution of Forge to gaming has been the invention of all this technical language that lets us talk about these sorts of things. In the 'old school' days, we didn't really have the ability to have this conversation, and to the extent we could have, we would have gotten lost in non-clinical language that would have muddied the waters even more than Forge speak. Muddled as this is as we argue over the nuances of failing forward, it's far clearer of a conversation than this would have been in 1985. Well, I think it is in the text but I would be lying to say that I learned it from the text. I didn't understand what the text was trying to say until long after I'd taken the lessons to heart, and then only after that did I understand exactly what Gygax was trying (and often failing) to say. [/QUOTE]

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