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<blockquote data-quote="Nightcloak" data-source="post: 1971403" data-attributes="member: 23862"><p>Wow. Walk away for a few hours and some really great advice hits the boards. It would appear that I have distracted the patient with a motivational speach and the Wolf came in with the hard medicine. But it is good medicine and needs to be said, and was said very well I might add. </p><p></p><p>A few points to add (or agree with as the case way be)</p><p></p><p>First: Handle this outside of the game. Small issues can be handled in game. This is not a small issue. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Wolf and Mordmorgan are right, you need to step back and analize what you want out of the game and what your players want. You both need to be playing the same style of game. If it ends up being you, don't despair. You already seem frustrated by only playing once per month, so find a second group that does enjoy the same style you do. If their style of game enmass is different then yours then you may need to meet them on there playing field and find an additional outlet for what you want. That's what I ended up doing. I still play with my original group of years, but I realized that the game for them over the years has become less about Role-Playing and more about getting away from the kids and having a few drinks without the day to day RL issues. I realized I still wanted a story, role-playing, and serious adventuring without "break-out" conversations interupting the game. So now I play once a month with another group of friends I looked up to do the "serious" game with. I'm enjoying the "less serious" game much more now I understand the "metagame" and have an outlet for what I want.</p><p></p><p>ENWorld is another outlet <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> </p><p></p><p>Yea, it can be hard to find players, but its worth the effort. Check out the "Players Seeking Players" thread here in ENWorld. I'm not recommending you drop your players, just realize they are there to have fun also and you may need to let that group be, well... themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. Better is what some DMs do. Have a hand out at the beginning of the campaign that details your: house rules, world specifics, and table rules. Be up front, consistent, and enforce those rules. You have a right to enjoy the game as much as they do and they cannot complain if you are up-front with the facts and consistent.</p><p></p><p>You can compromise on style but you don't need to be frutrated by poor behavior. Drop the hammer. You'll feel better and so will they if they want to play and get to do to less interuptions.</p><p></p><p>Final advice after reading these threads.</p><p></p><p>1. Take a deep breath.</p><p>2. Go find a cool drink and enjoy it.</p><p>3. Say: "I will enjoy my game again!"</p><p>4. Come back and re-read Mordmorgan's and Wolf's posts again. They said it the best.</p><p>5. Start enjoying your game! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nightcloak, post: 1971403, member: 23862"] Wow. Walk away for a few hours and some really great advice hits the boards. It would appear that I have distracted the patient with a motivational speach and the Wolf came in with the hard medicine. But it is good medicine and needs to be said, and was said very well I might add. A few points to add (or agree with as the case way be) First: Handle this outside of the game. Small issues can be handled in game. This is not a small issue. The Wolf and Mordmorgan are right, you need to step back and analize what you want out of the game and what your players want. You both need to be playing the same style of game. If it ends up being you, don't despair. You already seem frustrated by only playing once per month, so find a second group that does enjoy the same style you do. If their style of game enmass is different then yours then you may need to meet them on there playing field and find an additional outlet for what you want. That's what I ended up doing. I still play with my original group of years, but I realized that the game for them over the years has become less about Role-Playing and more about getting away from the kids and having a few drinks without the day to day RL issues. I realized I still wanted a story, role-playing, and serious adventuring without "break-out" conversations interupting the game. So now I play once a month with another group of friends I looked up to do the "serious" game with. I'm enjoying the "less serious" game much more now I understand the "metagame" and have an outlet for what I want. ENWorld is another outlet :cool: Yea, it can be hard to find players, but its worth the effort. Check out the "Players Seeking Players" thread here in ENWorld. I'm not recommending you drop your players, just realize they are there to have fun also and you may need to let that group be, well... themselves. Indeed. Better is what some DMs do. Have a hand out at the beginning of the campaign that details your: house rules, world specifics, and table rules. Be up front, consistent, and enforce those rules. You have a right to enjoy the game as much as they do and they cannot complain if you are up-front with the facts and consistent. You can compromise on style but you don't need to be frutrated by poor behavior. Drop the hammer. You'll feel better and so will they if they want to play and get to do to less interuptions. Final advice after reading these threads. 1. Take a deep breath. 2. Go find a cool drink and enjoy it. 3. Say: "I will enjoy my game again!" 4. Come back and re-read Mordmorgan's and Wolf's posts again. They said it the best. 5. Start enjoying your game! :) [/QUOTE]
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