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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nightcloak" data-source="post: 2040175" data-attributes="member: 23862">Ahhhhh... I see. I really need to update ye ole' library soon. I have been focusing on 3rd party material a lot lately. AnywhoBase creature = Warfaorged Starting stats based on "elite numbers" in the SRD for creatures with player classes: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8 or detailed for our Goliath is Str 15, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 8.Racial modifiers for warforged applied: Str 15, Dex 13, Con 16, Int 12, Wis 8, Cha 6.[CR 1/2 befor levels]3 levels of Fighter = 3 HD + 2 feats for character level + 2 feats for fighter levels Feat, First level Character: Adamantine Body (+8 AC, replaces +2 starting AC bonus) and DR 2/Adamantine +3 feats on Improved Damage Reduction brings the DR to 5/Adamantine +1 feat on Exotic Weapon Proficiency (goliath Great Hammer)[CR 3 = 1/2 + 3 levels rounded down]Advance to large size= Str +8    Dex –2    Con +4    Natural Armor +2    AC/Attack –1  plus the rest off the fun that goes into large creatures. Cost is CR+1 per SRD[CR: 4 = 3 advanced +1 for increased size]How's this little guy?Goliath Warforged v1.0Str 23 , Dex 11, Con 20, Int 12, Wis 8, Cha 6.Armor Class: 19 (+10 Natural , -1 size)HD: 3d10+15To Hit: +8 (+3 level, +6 strength, -1 size)Special: Weapon Prof (Big Ass Axe) and DR 5/AdamantineFort: +8, Ref: +1, Wil: -1*26 skill points as you see fit, none higher than 6 ranks*CR: 4</blockquote>