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<blockquote data-quote="BraveSirRobin" data-source="post: 4325997" data-attributes="member: 3590"><p>I will preface my comment by saying that I don't have the 4e books yet and haven't read more then a few pages of them. I certainly haven't played under the new ruleset, yet. As such, my comments have nothing to do as a commentary on 4e. </p><p></p><p>That being said, I am quite shocked to have read comments in this thread that 3.x is better for social/political games. IMHO, 3.x is horrible for these types of skill challenges/ games mostly because the characters are so unbalanced for those types of encounters. I tend to DM many adventures, all PBP, and almost always ignore/supplement/change skills rules in 3.x so that most of the characters aren't standing around doing nothing for most encounters. Someone brought up the notion of the encounter to fix farm equipment so that the character with the skill in farming can use that skill. So what are the other characters doing? Nothing. In fact the majority of the classes are just standing around during these encounters unless they act totally out of the ruleset, which I always allow. So, unless you tend to run games of only rogues and bards in your games, the 3.x ruleset is just totally broken for social/political games. The fact that people claim that 4e is worse scares the bejeezus out of me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BraveSirRobin, post: 4325997, member: 3590"] I will preface my comment by saying that I don't have the 4e books yet and haven't read more then a few pages of them. I certainly haven't played under the new ruleset, yet. As such, my comments have nothing to do as a commentary on 4e. That being said, I am quite shocked to have read comments in this thread that 3.x is better for social/political games. IMHO, 3.x is horrible for these types of skill challenges/ games mostly because the characters are so unbalanced for those types of encounters. I tend to DM many adventures, all PBP, and almost always ignore/supplement/change skills rules in 3.x so that most of the characters aren't standing around doing nothing for most encounters. Someone brought up the notion of the encounter to fix farm equipment so that the character with the skill in farming can use that skill. So what are the other characters doing? Nothing. In fact the majority of the classes are just standing around during these encounters unless they act totally out of the ruleset, which I always allow. So, unless you tend to run games of only rogues and bards in your games, the 3.x ruleset is just totally broken for social/political games. The fact that people claim that 4e is worse scares the bejeezus out of me. [/QUOTE]
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