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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4326212" data-attributes="member: 18">This is precisely it, and this is why the comparisons to MMORPGs, specifically WoW, are actually sometimes valid, because that's pretty much exactly the situation you have there. Everything and everyone has the stats the game needs them to. Not the stats they should logically have, the ones the game needs them to. If they need you to not kill an NPC, he's unkillable, or level a zillion, or what-have-you. You can't open that door because there's nothing behind it. In 4E, you could open the door, of course, but because you'd have a fair inkling that it wasn't one of the DM's carefully Pre-Prepared Level-Appropriate Encounters (TM), you'd know it was pretty much being made up.Further, if you find yourselves in a situation where you have to fight the king, you know the king is fight-able. Maybe it was likely that he was in previous editions, but in 4E it's even more clear.Like you say, though, I'm not sure it matters for most purposes. It does matter for some, though, and I can definately feel it, and feel the sacrifice that's been made in 4E's rules. It's one I can probably live with, but failing to acknowledge serves no-one but bonkers fans.</blockquote>