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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5197854" data-attributes="member: 54707"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=88680" target="_blank">Wolf1066</a>:I can understand the caution on the part of authorities, and as a security matter, having worked security myself and on occasion still either working in the field or training others about security. Precaution is necessary. An unfortunate sign of the times in which we live.But yeah, I'm like you. I look back wistfully and with nostalgia at the days when infiltration (at least in my neck of the woods) never triggered thoughts of terrorism, and rarely thoughts of crime. People were a lot freer and more relaxed when there was no terrorism to trigger thoughts of "worst case scenarios." It's a shame we're forced to live in the world we do sometimes. Different world back then though. Not perfect, but a lot more innocent in some ways.On the other hand I've already drawn up the outline of a book on Vadding that I intend to write as a sort of primer and training manual about how to do it right, and safely, and without triggering undue alarm and without harming anyone or anything. (I wrote a handbook on it for my own use years ago, but I wanna write a real, general use book too.)  It'll have sections on equipment, preparation, target selection (where you want to explore), objectives, different kinds of dangers you might face, team efforts, vadding solo, good cover stories, maintaining good relations with the police, contacting owners (two things I do include usually letting the police know what I'm doing and if I can find them simply asking permission of the owners of a place I wanna vad if I can go in and document it, and then share the pics or recordings with them - course some owners you can't find), vadding for anti-criminal and anti-terrorist purposes (I've done a lot of this), communications, Search and Rescue, overlap with other occupations and avocations, etc. I've used a lot of my vadding skills over time for various other things; security and law enforcement work, Intel and information gathering, Search and Rescue, disaster recovery and reconnaissance, survival, etc. They're good solid skills to possess which are easy to apply to other work or efforts.If you do wanna vad though I can also suggest these others ways to do it safely: start studying industrial archeology and urban/rural exploration, and if you can get in with a collegiate, local, or amateur group of Industrial Archaeologists or Urban Explores then join with them. If you got a good, smart dog, you can sometimes train them to vad with you. Makes it hard to get ambushed and they are good early warning systems. They can also locate all kinds of interesting things you'll never see even with night vision and other specialized equipment. My Great Dane hybrid goes with me sometimes. Course you gotta train em to stay quiet otherwise. Stealth and invisibility are the best traits a vadder can possess.Yeah, and I've often called Role Play Gaming, "vadding of the mind." RPGing can be good mental training to vad. I also often work vadding into my RPGs, Alternate Reality Games, and I want to write an entire video game about Vadding (it'll have other elements too, but it'll primarily be about vadding).Here is a link to how I use Vadders in my game. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/254759-worlds-apart-2.html#post4772901" target="_blank">The Vadders</a>.They are easy to adapt and adopt to practically any genre or setting.I gotta say though that by now Vadding is almost an antique term. People rarely use it anymore, but it's what I learned and I always just stuck with it. To me it's got a lot more "character" than an UE, or Urban Explorer.By the way, vadding locales and missions are excellent opportunities for placing and triggering Easter Eggs.Well, good luck and Godspeed to ya in whatever you decide to do. In game and in real life.</blockquote>

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