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<blockquote data-quote="Jenale" data-source="post: 873674" data-attributes="member: 10811">Normally, if the characters are just searching, they would discover the opening mechanism at the same time they discover the door.On a few rare occasions, they might know the door is there (say they get to the room just as it's shutting), but not know how to open it (without searching--I know in 2nd ed, this would increase their chances to find the mechanism by 1).I tend to prefer not to use the dice for this--rather give them enough description that they can see the room in the mind's eye, and let them tell me the specific action (poke fingers in the hollow eyes of the lion statue, pull out/push in every book w/ a particular color on the spine, etc.)&nbsp; Of course, if no one enjoys doing that (as &quot;elf the room&quot; suggests to me), I guess you're stuck with the dice--I just find that less interesting, and fortunately have a group that feels the same way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jenale, post: 873674, member: 10811"] Normally, if the characters are just searching, they would discover the opening mechanism at the same time they discover the door. On a few rare occasions, they might know the door is there (say they get to the room just as it's shutting), but not know how to open it (without searching--I know in 2nd ed, this would increase their chances to find the mechanism by 1). I tend to prefer not to use the dice for this--rather give them enough description that they can see the room in the mind's eye, and let them tell me the specific action (poke fingers in the hollow eyes of the lion statue, pull out/push in every book w/ a particular color on the spine, etc.) Of course, if no one enjoys doing that (as "elf the room" suggests to me), I guess you're stuck with the dice--I just find that less interesting, and fortunately have a group that feels the same way. [/QUOTE]

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