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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2887719" data-attributes="member: 29014">Whereas I think that any character willing to pay a full level adjustment for stat increases shouldn't have to encounter troubles due to stat raises or inherent bonuses.  Admittedly, there is precedent in the way skill points work for creating characters that are different based on when they raised their Int, but for everything else in the game, the rules work so that meticulous track of order needn't be kept, and many people (though not myself included) consider this a reason to switch the way skill points work too.  Implementing it your way will be a headache for Judges (My level 5 Elite character who took Elite first might wind up with stats that are totalling up much better than yours who took Elite at 5th, even if we tried to buy similar stats) and only causes suffering for players who are already paying a large price for a few higher stats--it can't possibly help them unless you would rule that ability drain lets you randomly pay less for point buy, in which case my Wizard would gleefully go visit an Intellect Devourer before taking Elite and then go get the lost Int restored.Edit: On a side note, we don't charge elves extra PB to raise up their Dex to 20 after racial mods.  I would think that 'Point Buy', since it is meant to exist solely at character creation, is always applied before considering anything that happened since character creation, including racial adjustments.  Or do you want to tell me that a level 1 Elf with Dex 16 (He paid 6 points and got +2 from being elf) needs to pay 6 more points to get to 18 Dex if he takes a level in Elite?</blockquote>

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