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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Holy Bovine" data-source="post: 205534" data-attributes="member: 203">First Jester I know what I'm about to say isn't really germaine to your point but I just wanted to use what you said here to illustrate mine <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I have always found it amusing that DMs who say 3E is more difficult to 'wing it' often trot out examples like the one provided by Jester here.The amusing part is that in previous editions there was no way to create such things.  An Otyugh Wizard?  Shee-yah right!  That ain't possible DM boy!  Not 'round here in 2nd ed (or 1st ed)country!  Now if you want something like this (and who wouldn't <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) you have the rules to do it and only need the time to put it together.  Frankly if I thought of something like this halfway through a session and it would provide the best climax to the session I would work it out during 'DM off time' when the players are working on plans to overcome the lastest obstacle.  And I have made up things a lot more complex than this (though not as neat sounding <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) in the space of 30 minutes with the players none the wiser that the final showdown was written while they discussed how to get by the gas filled pit trap!</blockquote>

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