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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4982215" data-attributes="member: 5202">I tend not to take the Forge into account, but that's b/c I think the entire Forge theory system is stupid.The pdf system doesn't need to be taken into account in this discussions context b/c the specific point made originally was that _distributors_ will not pick you up.  Print media.  Not drivethrurpg or whatever.  Yes there are other viable routes and with the pdf market there is another possible market there.  I think it's certainly a fair assessment that in the 90s there was a lot of very interesting competition in the retail RPG market and a lot of it was produced by very small teams.  After the d20 bubble burst, you see a lot more distributor reluctance to pick up unknown stuff as they got burned badly in the past.  This has been talked about by several of the publishers on this board.  The way that 3E and 4E have become more visibly tied into specific numbers and the way people have been able to reverse engineer and show people the exact numbers involved has helped people be able to look at systems and pick them apart a bit better.  This is a good thing, as it allows you to better institute balanced changes to your game.</blockquote>